Not breaking through is FRUSTRATING

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Magical mystery tourguide, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. Well i must have tried about 5 times so far out of a lightulb vape, and even with around 60 mg i still havent broke through. Basically i wait till the bulb is filled with smoke, and i let go of the carb and inhale, and i took like 3-4 tokes and i didnt even get that great of visuals, basically like eating an eighth of shrooms, and my head was buzzing so hard it felt like it was gonna explode, so even at this level it seems like it would take a lot more to break through. The crystals are white, so they must be very pure, i dont know what im doing wrong:eek:
  2. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

    try using a torch. get three hits of vape and when the dmt is good and melted smoke the weed.
  3. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

    Don't use a torch. That's way too hot. The reason you can't just smoke it in a regular pipe is cause the vape point is so low.

    Try out The Machine.
  4. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

    I think I almost broke through last night by melting the dmt into weed and then taking two hits of the weed. that is probably the method I will stick to. you may need to use a little bit more to account for inefficiency. i didnt use a torch either, i don't think a bic gets hot enough to vape the dmt. if you use a torch and hold it far away enough you can get a hit of straight vapor before burning the bowl.
  5. Yeah you guys mean from like a normal pipe and bowl? Well then what i tried was putting some crusehd up basil (smokes well and easy) in the bottom of the pipe, and i sprinkled dmt ontop of that and then held the flame really close, but i think i burnt some but i did get pretty good visuals, but still nowhere near a breakthrough. But i think ill try melting the dmt into the weed first, so then i can just burn that weed/ basil straight?
  6. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

    Don't bother mixing it with pot or anything. It's unreliable as hell. Build The Machine. Google "The Machine PDF" and it should be first hit. If you don't wanna do that, make a crack pipe. You smoke freebase drugs in freebase pipes.
  7. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

    ayo, get a chillum, pack some herbs in, rip it, and you'll be ripped like porno flick bitches, rolling with groups of ghetto bastards with biscuits.
  8. Yeah i know about the machine the thing is i dont have glass drilling bits and i dont even know how to work a drill in the first place. But where would i buy a freebase pipe, and how do they differ so much from a lightbulb vape?
  9. pedaltopedal

    pedaltopedal Member

    In my experience, the freebase pipe works A LOT better than the lightbulb vaporizer.

    Whenever I've tried to use the lightbulb vaporizer, as soon as the dmt melted it would naturally spread out over too large an area... its almost as if the melted DMT moves away from the heat source. This makes it difficult to vaporize enough DMT quickly enough (though it can be done).

    With a freebase pipe, the DMT doesn't have very far to go so it's much easier to control the amount of heat being applied to it. You can vaporize a lot of DMT very quickly in a freebase pipe - and this is very important because you need to get as much DMT into your body as quickly as possible. You could smoke 200mg and not breakthrough if you weren't getting it all into your system quickly enough.

    The only downside to using a freebase pipe is that its very easy to apply too much heat... this will burn the DMT instead of vaporizing it. It takes practice to get it right.

    Smoking the DMT on top of some ash or pot is another good way, just don't apply the flame directly.

    Also, once you are done vaporizing your DMT, try laying down and close your eyes... don't expect to break through, it'll happen when it happens.
  10. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

    i would like to add that not breaking through is nothing to shy from, odds are youll still have youll mind blown :D take it as it comes
  11. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

    Use a Hennessy bottle (the double shot, not a fifth or anything) and all you have to do is tap the weak spot a few good, hard times with the tip of a knife.
  12. My friend made 2 machines and still didnt breakthrough. So where can i buy freebase pipes then, do you mean like those crack pipe love rose things?
  13. pedaltopedal

    pedaltopedal Member

    Looks like that... except it will be clean.

    Try going to your local headshop. Don't just ask for a freebase pipe... they might not sell to you. Around here they call them oil burners or oil incense burners... not all headshops are allowed to carry them, depends on where you live.
  14. So is that what most people use to breakthrough? So where do you light it, just how you would light a lightbulb vape?
  15. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

    fuck this breakthrough shit, just get high. there is no point where you really break through. there is merely a point when the trip is THAT profound and alien that you can no longer recognise yourself as being in a room on earth.

    keep hittin that thing until you get high. hold the hits in. its the most technical smoke in the world (well.. ive not tried salvia yet) so dont just have the smoke in your mouth and expect that youre hitting it right. its not a cigarette
  16. -beatnick

    -beatnick Senior Member

    i'd say its on par with salvia in that aspect.
  17. peacegrow

    peacegrow Member

    Success has been reached with a deep glass bowl on a glass Chinese water pipe, without water.
    Put in a few screens, tilt it to the side, and hold the lighter far enough away so that the flame cannot reach the spice. Put a screen on top to help protect it seems to block the flame from the DMT.

    First hit produces some smoke and melts everything else into liquid. It it's held to the side, any liquid that doesn't stick to the screens will not go down the stem (if the bowl is shaped in a way to make this possible.)

    2nd and 3rd hits work really well, and produce a lot of smoke very easily, if everything goes well. Maybe let the 3rd hit flame go a little deeper. These hits often produce some much smoke it's hard to believe it's coming from such a small amount of crystals. Milky white smoke. (I guess it's vapor, not smoke, if everything went right.) Maybe it just looks like a lot because you just took a hit of DMT...

    Depending on the shape of the bowl, you can hold it to the side and draw the flame deeply. The flame will be drawn to the opening in the bottom of the bowl, rather than towards the DMT on the side, so the DMT is safe. Sometimes for the third hit, a deep draw like that is needed to evap all the DMT on the side.

    When done right, the burnt plastic smell everyone talks about it not prominent. Only when DMT is burnt.

    The weirdest thing about smoking DMT is that you are often already very much affected by it by the 2nd or 3rd hit. There's a sense of...what am I doing continuing to suck this stuff into my body when I'm already losing my mind. It seems almost cruel to sanity to keep smoking. But then, when it fully hits, you will likely be glad you did it. The main disappointment is from too little, not too much.

    It is hard to decide how long to hold in each hit vs. how much time you have left to take the additional hits. If you hold the hit for 30 seconds, you may not be able to take the next one. This is the hardest thing to balance. Sometimes DMT hasn't even hit you until after the 3rd hit...but that's really rare...I'm not sure what made it different those times....but it has happened once or twice.

    I hope you have enought to give it a few more tries. It will eventually work unless the DMT is not potent.

    Everyone has a different definition of breakthrough. I have no problem needing to close my eyes to see the beautiful visuals, but, I know I have broken through when it doesn't really matter much if I open or close my eyes. Usually the visuals with eyes open get to crazy to continue keeping them the whole visual field shakes violently on the comeup that I can't stand to keep my eyes open, and when I close them I enter a totally different space. There have been times though, when I believe my eyes were open the whole time because during comedown they are watery as if I didn't blink for 5 minutes....which may be the case.

    Keep trying....It will work eventually. If you have enought, put more in.

    If it seems like you are getting 3 big hits, and nothing serious is happening, then maybe the DMT isn't potent for some reason. Maybe other alkoloids make up part of the crystal or something.

    I'd also recommend keeping the lights on....or not going to a dark smoke it. Even with your eyes closed, I think the light that penetrates your eyelids can be helpful. Once on a lighter dose, all my visuals were red tinted, which was really weird. Later I thought maybe I was looking directly at a light with my eyes closed after I laid down on the it was the blood in my eyelids tinting things.

    Sorry for the long post...I get carried away thinking about DMT. It's something that is truely wonderful, and I'm definitely an enthusiast. I can't really say it changed my life or I learned anything that could be described in words....but, man, it's a experience worth pursuing.
  18. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

    I think it's harder. I've had more failed DMT session than salvia ones.
  19. K thanks everyone and especially peacegrow for that very long and helpful post, i will try this with the screens but i think ill just use a normal spoon since when i first tried to use my water bottle bong with no water it didnt well, and i dont have access to a real bong either
  20. pencapchew

    pencapchew Member

    could it be the quality of the dmt?
    60 mg is ALOT!!! i only need half that and im fine
    i use a cylindrical glass pipe with a small screen in side towards one end
    there is ussually very little residue after, you have to inhale quick tho
    i get the pipes at my local head shop for 5$

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