Nostalgia/Deja-Vu When Tripping

The first time I ever took shrooms (3.5gs) I was tripping my nuts off and I just could NOT understand how I had never taken shrooms before. I felt like I KNEW this feeling before, the mindset and the perception of everything. It felt like all of my childhood just packed into a short amount of time.

I'm not saying I re-experienced my childhood, but that everything seemed to point back to a child's perspective. This isn't necessarily what gets me though, I realize tripping will do this.

I just now can't shake the idea that I have had a 'trip' experience even before this. I felt as if I have had these experiences not through myself but through a different body/person, because I obviously know I hadn't tripped before the shrooms. But each time I tripped after that I was like "I'm going back, again"

I had a very strong visualization in my mind the first trip of how all people are interconnected throughout life - an interconnectedness of consciousness. The mythical archetypes, collective consciousness, even a form of ESP communication. (I didn't communicate to anyone, but I felt almost as if I was able to draw from other conscious beings.)

The visual itself was of a sort of plant, a vine, that grew into these seed pods in which every single person inhabits - one for each person. We all were born and live our entire lives in these pods, growing and stretching. Rarely we would ever get a view or a glimpse of ourselves in this situation.

This, above all else, was felt like a place I had been before. I had seen it - or at least understood it before in my childhood. (Which is very strange, because I do indeed recall telling my mom how I thought babies were sent to the Earth and how I believed in reincarnation - all because I had a dream in which it was depicted when I was like 5 or 6) I feel like with my innocence and a naivete as a child, I had a closer awareness of existence - perhaps because I was much newer to existence. I could still recall being a not-person. THIS is what psychedelic use is bringing me back to and what I feel my main goal in tripping lies....Am I the only one?

 

That was well written!

I often get a sense of returning to childhood or the childlike perspective as well when I trip. I don't take it to the reincarnation level but it definitely reminds me of the brain and body slowly settling into the enviornment. that overwhelming sense of wonder and curiousity to help you grow as a child and the color enhancement reminds me of a brain not settled into the mundane yet.

The last 3 times I've turned on people to new substances : Dmt, LSD, and ecstasy they all made a comment about feeling a childlike wonder.

Probably the strongest I felt it was on an 1/8 of shrooms and walking into the brightly lit section of the childrens books at a book store.

 

Thanks:sunny:
The point of me getting a sense of reincarnation was because I definitely KNEW I had these revelations before in a very similar mindset. It wasn't like my childhood, because as a child I had nothing to juxtapose my experiences to....but perhaps it is, because as a child you are closer to being the collective conscious. (I very much believe in a Universal Life Force and that our conscious is recycled and reincarnated)

But I understand what you are saying - it makes total sense that that could be a stem for the sensation, but I'm saying that I literally felt EXACTLY this way before. I had the same thought patterns and I was in the same mindset absolutely everything - and it wasn't a loop, it was me experiencing something that either I picked up from the people I grew up with (my mother tripped a lot, I have reason to believe my father did some, and my sister was always a very free-thinker/hippie type).

I think that anyone will feel the childlike wonder if they are in tune with that or are cued to think that. But what I was experiencing, and still experience, is this sort of connection to either a past life or the collective conscious. Each trip I have experienced this, except for this last one where I was just totally shut down because of my environment...but whatever.

I'm not sure exactly how to explain it, but I think you get the idea.

 

you are going back when you trip, but not chronologically, genetically. you are going back to mental basics; pre-ego, pre-adult-ego, whatever. childlike wonder, feelings of "i used to live here", all come about because the psychedelic space is full of novelty, wonder, and joy, the cores of our youth. we learn as we grow to act like those around us who are tired of life, ho hum. maybe we get tired too. but the chemical kick sends us back to step 1, awareness. and awareness is joy and wonder.

 

I have had almost the same exact experience when I started tripping. Closer to the womb you are, the more pure you are, untouched by the dirt of society.

 

It's home, I have some work to do before I can reach that state of mind again.

I did see a pattern from 5mgs insufflated 2c t2 and 5 of 2c e, it was a pattern I had never seen before yet it was so so familiar.

 

How was that combo of 2ct2/2ce? Seems like it would be pretty heavy for a phen combo but your doses sound manageable.

2ct2 is the most underrated 2cx drug imo.

 

YES! This is deep wisdom and correct.

I have so much unlearning to do!

 

it is because all of everything is in you!

 

Yeah, it was pretty manageable, puked a little on the come up but that was because I witnessed my friend's puke. It was a weird combo, very eerie feeling until I started to come down a bit.

 

Frakking LOL! Just read "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke, youngster.

 

Yeah, I get it too sometimes. I can definitely relate to the "how have I not tripped before" sensation. The first time I had LSD all I could think was... this is amazing, but it's nothing new, I've already felt and seen (even the visuals) everything I'm experiencing right now at some point in my childhood(/dreams) but I can't remember exactly when.

The weirdest thing is that I also got the feeling from a Salvia breakthrough. I swear some aspects of it were EXACTLY like my sleep paralysis/night terrors I suffered from frequently when I was younger. Salvia was one of the strangest experiences of my life, but it was so eerily familiar, I can't even explain it...

I really can't understand or explain it any better than what pr0ne and Writer said. It's almost as if certain parts of your brain are active through childhood then get closed off when you grow up.

 

me too.

i definitely feel more childlike while tripping. everything is interesting and seems new. but i dunno about being recycled/reincarnated. i've never felt that from tripping. although, i have felt a strong sense of attachment to humanity, especially on my earlier doses of 2ce.

your vine visuals reminds me of an enormous strawberry type thing, where each seed was another strawberry.
mmm, i wish i had some

 

yeah i could go for some strawberries

 

FUCK! i come back to look at this thread, and all i get is reminded that i do not have strawberries!

deja-vu, brah:afro:

 

the first time I ever tripped I was listening to a song that had a really tribal drum beat and I completely felt that feeling of deja vu and even reincarnation. It occurred to me that people 3000 years ago were eating the same mushrooms and playing the same drum beats, and then it occurred to me that those same people are one and the same as me. I grasped the concept of simultaneous time at that moment even though I had never even heard of that concept at that time.

the last time i tripped it was like one long feeling of deja vu. I didn't get that feeling of reincarnation but I definitely felt like I had lived every moment of the trip before.

tripping definitely puts you in that timeless state of mind that you live in constantly as a kid.

I never had night terrors as a child, but Ive recently started having hypnogagic hallucinations and sleep paralysis. I've never thought about it before but now that you mention it, its remarkably similiar to a salvia trip. some people theorize that psychoactive substances can trigger hypnogagic hallucinations; i wonder if tripping has anything to do with why I get them now.

 

The second time I did mushrooms I felt like I was flying through a forest of entities in an ancient land, unbound. It was very reminiscent of the Aztec/Mexican religions, at least in terms of visuals. I don't know if I could say I really felt like I was undergoing a deja-vu, but I really did feel like this was.. something humans were supposed to do.

My latest DPT trip was very strange in the "deja-vu" aspect as well. I remember this feeling of many different beings, humans of the earth interconnecting with my soul, one by one, until I was within millions of people, and millions of people were within me. It seemed as if every action I attempted had already been done at some point and that every motion I made was already pre-mediated.

Psychedelics are strange items.

 

cannabis soul you gotta change that signature man it freaks me out every time lol!

 

I love the whole "nostalgic" aspect about psychedelics. I think it's one of the most interesting aspects in terms of "exploring the brain".

I rembember I once saw a clip with the great shulgin where he explains the first time he tried mescaline and how he was in awe when he explored its capability to act as catalyst to these kind of feelings.

I can't do his quote justice because he said it in such a beautiful manner that totally captured the way I also felt when I first discovered psychedelics.

I'm gonna upload it if I find it.

Edit: Found it!

about 4:20 in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD260LPqHKA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD260LPqHKA

 

This is why Shpongle's/Shulmans et al tribal sounds are so appealing when tripping

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