North American Union/SPP

Lest we forget these negotiations are going on and this will be pushed through just as NAFTA was if we don't wake up. We've seen the benefits of NAFTA for the general US public want it to take place in a broader context.... then stay dumb to what's going on.

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=3114

We are paying for Iraq and Afghanastan out our arse can we afford this too?

Who's trying to narrow my income disparity with that of the neo-cons? I continue to compete with illegal Mexican immigrants for jobs in the retail nursery trade. Anyone going to try and look after or subsidize my interests?

And my biggest question would be who oversees this fund and what exactly is it spent on. Mexico has a history of only profitting it's elite, so is this more money the US taxpayer flushes down an elitist toilet to see no return for?

 

Academics having a chit chat is not government policy. There is not NAU and there is going to be no NAU.

 

Out your ass Pepik. Just like there's no NAFTA.

While we sit back and listen to legislators say they've never heard of it...it get's passed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060331-1.html

Read between the lines. And if you buy into the Avian Flu thing you are just supporting Rumsfields pet pharmaceutical investment.

Nader was the only one that I ever heard say he read the entire NAFTA agreement. And he wasn't in a position to vote on it. Now no one has heard of the SPP.

If the US people sit back and let fast track get passed again we haven't learned anything.

 

That is an official US government link. This is in the works and they plan on it passing under the radar of the average US citizen, who might ask questions they wouldn't want to answer.

Perhaps there is no NAU, but there definitely is an SPP (Security Prosperity Partnership) in the works. And I feel so much more secure and prosperous just thinking about it. NOT!

 

Academics having a chit chat. And who ends up paying the bill....the US taxpayer. I thought Chertoff was our secretary of Homeland Security...guess not, think his primary role is putting this thing together.

Who exactly are those stakeholders? I don't have a stake in this, and all the visitors on CSpan say they've never heard of it, so just who are the stakeholders?

 

Yeah, right, that's why they're in the early phases of bulding the NAFTA superhighway.

You're a damn idiot.

 

People like "Pepik" and others might learn something if they watch this 28 min. video with Jerome Corsi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxzs46Nxohk

 

Hell, even Lou Dobbs is talking about it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5036nm5M1g&mode=related&search=

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6946647208237228392&q=North+American+Union&hl=en

Ron Paul on the NAU...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1udw9xvNNO4

 

Lou is one of the few major media commentator's that even admits to having heard of this. Guess he hasn't invested in anything related to it yet like the rest probably have.

 

Know what in the next election I'm not voting for anyone that claims ignorance of the SPP. They either take a stand or I vote for someone else. If politicians can not be aware of what is going on and openly posted on a Government website they do not deserve my trust or vote.

 

What if Jeb Bush decides to run, and centers his campaign around shutting down the SPP plan.

 

Mexico needs to help themselves first. the corrupt, statist, paternalistic socialism is not working. They have all that oil too! Privatise it.

 

He wouldn't. It's out of the question. He might run, but there's no way in hell he would be against the SPP/NAU plan.

 

The old bait and switch.

You claim there's an NAU plan, when I point out there isn't you admit I'm right but say there's an SPP. SPP isn't NAU.

No, now you are linking to government chit chats which of course taxpayers pay for. Nothing very exciting or scandalous about that.

Homeland security does involve contact with neighboring countries. The USA isn't an island.

Stakeholders is bullshit government speak for "everybody affected". Its what they say when they mean they are going to consult everyone before they go ahead and do what they were going to do anyway. You are a stakeholder.

Its a fucking highway you paranoid freak. Get back on your meds. Its not even a new highway, its basically the I-35.

Is that Jermome "Swiftboat Veteran for Truth" Corsi who said that "Islam is a peaceful religion as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered, and the infidels killed." Tell us what you learned from this fascinating person.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about presidential candidates. But I wouldn't vote for another Bush anymore than I would vote for another Clinton, no matter what they supported or didn't.

 

I used NAU because people like Rat refer to it as that, in essence they are one and the same plan. If your whole argument hinges on discounting that this is happening because of the term NAU, I promise to stop using it and refer to only as the SPP.

Another part of his solution, a $200-billion North American Investment Fund, is for the purpose of narrowing the income disparity between Mexico, on the one hand, and the U.S. and Canada, on the other.

I find that scandalous, in that it is being proposed without input from the American Taxypayers.

Why isn't he expressing more concern for controlling drug trafficking and the illegal imigration of Mexicans, than promising them economic prosperity. What about securing our homeland first.

If I am a stakeholder why have I not been ask for my opinion on this program? Why do most of the American public including legislators not even know about the SPP? Is the general Mexican public aware of this program?

 

Pepik, do you get paid to post here?

"oooh just a bunch of rich elites meeting together, NOTHINNGG to see here folks...move along"

 

There's your problem then.

That's the thing, they are not the same plan at all. There is no NAU plan.

This is the bait and switch I was talking about. Who is proposing it? Someone at a university. It is not a government plan or proposal, so why is there a scandal for taxpayers? These right wing con artists tell you about a NAU government plan, and then provide links to academics. Academics can talk about whatever they want, it has no relevance.

How can I answer that? You have your personal set of priorities. But that has nothing to do with a NAU, which doesn't exist.

Because its boring and there's nothing in it that is unprecedented or expecially important. And it is nothing more than a handshake agreement to work on exciting things like food quality standards - with no obligations on either side. An example of what they've done so far: "signed an agreement for advance notifications when consumer goods violate one country's safety standards or pose a danger to consumers." Not really exciting stuff.

Its an academic conference at a small university. Where are the rich elites? Do you seriously get excited every time two college professors meet to discuss anything?

 

Yeah I guess Lou Dobbs is just flat faced lying...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U

 

About 20 second in, Dobbs says "what critics are calling a 'North American Union' ".

Guess you missed that.