No Limits To U.S. War Crimes

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  1. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

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    The latest human rights violations in a seemingly endless stream committed by U.S. forces in the middle east surfaced and it was videotaped.
    It shows U.S soldiers burning human bodies in Afganistan. That's a violation of International Law, The Rules Of War, and The U.S. Army's own laws.
    So we've killed tens of thousands, tortured civilians and now we are desecrating bodies.
    How is what we're doing not as bad as what saddam and the taliban did?

    Yesterday Condi Rice said that the republicans are going to keep troops in Iraq for the next 10 years at least, or as long as they remain in power.
     
  2. Megara

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    where did she say that? she said she doesnt think it right to speculate at all.
     
  3. moop

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    the bush administration has also broken the geneva conventions by allowing the use of depleted uranium penetrators. they use it for their armor piercing shells because of its strength. but when its hits it release radioactive dust particles in the air which will not dissipate for million of years. our soldiers breath this in every time they step onto the battleground. the battleground are comletely covered in this stuff. depleted uranium can damage dna. since the start of the gulf war, which our troops were in for one month, 200,000 of the 500,000 troops have filed for disability, you might have heard this reffered to as the "gulf war syndrome". there was been a tenfold increase in the number of birth defects in the children born in iraq and children of the soldiers. most of these are super rare defects, similar to what happened to the people affected by the nukes in japan during ww2. now after the new iraq war the numbers of troops fileing for disability is getting close to the gulf war levels. the iraqis have to live with this stuff now. there are du shells is the streets of there cities and they breath it in every day. reports show that up to a million iraqis have died for mysterious reasons never seen before the gulf war. the politicians know about du and its effects. if they really cared about iraqis well-being why would they not use alternative weapons that do not have the dangerous effects of du. putting so much radiation into a coutry is basically genocide, and its the us's fault.
     
  4. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    lets keep on supporting those troops, people! be a good little american and SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!!
     
  5. shaggie

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  6. Megara

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    if this journalist was traveling with US soldiers, why on gods earth would they be doing this? It leads me to believe that this is the work of two errant soldiers and not some command from higher up. God, i hope not. I'd seriously hope that we wouldnt be THAT stupid, let alone sick.
     
  7. wideyed

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    theyre effing soldiers, what do you expect? or more pointedly, what does the us govt expect? to me this is a classic point (which has been made over and over agaain) of how the us govt is disconnected from reality. They expect their soilders to behave like yale grads? theyre rednecks raised on wwe. they hate "sand niggers". they're in a fire fight, doing what they feel is necessary to win! now theyre own govt is saying "we dont condone this action". its bullshit. I feel sorry for every dumbass that signed up to fight this war. shit and it wasnt even in iraq... dont expect your soldiers to act like uni students.

    i had this dog. it would find porcupines on my farm, and get pricked; now a smart dog would leave with a few quills in its mouth - but my dog, it would get angry, and try and bite the porcupine. jesus did it suffer every time for its agression.

    chew away, usa.
     
  8. MrRee

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    What a bunch of complete idiots US military minds must be. They're doing exactly the same thing that they did in Vietnam ~ turning not only the local population against them, but the rest of the world in the process. They're so determined in doing more and more revolting things it makes one wonder if that's not their aim?
     
  9. da420

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    This is not war crimes. This is not even technically war. If this is a war under the geneva conventions the people we are fighting are supposed to be wearing a uniform distinguishing them as such. They don't follow the rules of war, and since this is technically not a war, and we are fighting terrorists that want to kill all non believers, this does not bother me.
    I mean, C'mon these fucktards are terrorists. This angers the terrorists and brings them out so we can kill them.

    An article from Neal Boortz:

    BASHING THE TROOPS

    The media never passes up a good chance to bash the men and women of the United States Military. The only evidence we need for this is the continued, ongoing coverage of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. With around 150,000 troops serving in Iraq, we were constantly reminded of the actions of a very few. They continue to work that story as much as possible, mentioning it whenever they can.

    So now the same thing is happening. This time the controversy is over a news report in Australia that says American soldiers burned the bodies of two Taliban Islamic terrorists. Those poor Taliban fighters...just makes your heart ache that their corpses were mishandled, doesn't it?

    The TV report evidently shows the U.S. soldiers burning the bodies on October 1. Apparently burning bodies is a desecration of the Islamic faith. Boo hoo. The point was to make the rest of the Taliban good and mad and draw them out, so the Army could shoot some more of them. A basic tactic of war.

    But now we're going to be treated with news reports about how this is going to anger the Muslim world. Our standing in the Arab world is going to be harmed! If there's nothing else that keeps me up at night, it's the worry that there may be people in Islamic countries that hate us. Oh the agony!

    At least they didn't burn the Taliban fighters alive. Although that never stopped Islamic terrorists from doing that to us.
     
  10. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    It isn't about so much about the burned bodies. Those people were already dead. It is about the flagrant disregard for another's culture and religious beliefs. Muslim law required dead bodies to be cleaned and buried a certain way to allow proper passage to the afterlife. Why are we there under the guise of freedom and liberation if we are going to be so disrespectful to their culture and beliefs? I am ashamed of the way citizens of our country behave. We are supposed to be a representative of democracy in the free world. Instead we represent arrogance, intolerance, disrespect, and stupidity.
     
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    Well in my opinion i am not gonna really give a shit about anothers culture if they are shooting at me because some terrorist retard has a belief that all non believer need to be murdered. He can go to hell or whatever for all I care.
     
  12. hippypaul

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    War sucks - there is nothing you can do to make it look good - we are seeing for the first time things that have happened in every war in history. It is even worse in an urban gorilla conflict which what we have stupidly gotten ourselves into. No army in the world has a hardened supply line or could afford one. That is why we will keep bleeding troops as long as they are there. The big question is how to get them out without having another Dunkirk. I would hate to be in the last battalion to leave Iraq. As far as the line grunts they are the same as they have been in every war man ever had - they took the kings coin and they do the kings work. Better to change the king than to cry out against the troops.
     
  13. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    The whole culture is shooting at us?

    And why disrespect a whole people's culture because one person is trying to kill another? American's murder more American's each year than those muslims did in the WTC buildings. We murder more of ourselves yearly than have been killed in the Iraq war and War on Terror so far. In fact, combine the americans killed in the WTC, war on terror, and Iraq war and we STILL murder more of ourselves yearly than those muslims have in the entirity of those attacks.

    Should we start disrespecting our citizen's beliefs and culture because of that? Should we not give a fuck about our citizens rights and beliefs because we shoot eachother? Should we send the military out against ourselves?
     
  14. Megara

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    We dont sanction this. There was an immediate inquiry into what happened and it looks like these people will get in trouble.

    Just because SOME people act under our name in an improper way doesnt mean we are all acting improper. It doesn't help our image with muslims of course, but we dont all become bad because 2 people did something bad.
     
  15. Sera Michele

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    2 people? And all eyes are on us, so if it were just 2 people it would be 2 too many. Unfortunatly, there are more than just 2 of us over there disrespecting muslim culture.

    We don't sanction this, but perhaps attitudes of those in the military are encouraging it?
     
  16. Megara

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    of course it is 2 too many..as i said, it doesn't help our name in the muslim world. However, if you are being fair, you cant base everyone off of 2 people. Remember, there are over a million people in the US army.

    I wouldnt be surprised if the military "encourages" it though.
     
  17. hippypaul

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    You cannot get people to kill other people. The first thing that is done in a war is to dehumanize the enemy. There is no way around it, a troop will not kill someone who he respects. Take a look at the way armies are formed and trained. The only solution is not to set the dogs loose in the first place.
     
  18. thumontico

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    islamic beliefs are silly and arbitrary, like all religion...
     
  19. shaggie

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    We'll see if the Pentagon claims it was just a college prank by a couple of rogue troops, as they did with the Abu Ghraib scandal. They haven't used that excuse yet as far as I know.

    What makes that type of claim unbelievable is the way the troops are exploiting nuances of the enemy's culture to humiliate and abuse them. Apparently it has happened again in this latest case. If they were pranks by naive troops, you wouldn't expect them to be so intricate. A seargent who is part of psyops was involved in this one too, which doesn't give people much creedence in the college prank alibi. Not surprising that people believe that higher ups in the military are orchestrating these tactics.

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  20. shaggie

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    The higher ups in the military running Abu Ghraib were incredibly stupid or lax or both. If they knew about it, they look bad. If they didn't, as they claim, they were lax at monitoring that place. Apparently no one in the Pentagon considered that pics or video might get loose. Either way, they looked bad in that scandal.

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