No difference between Bush and Kerry!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kabbalist, May 22, 2004.

  1. Kabbalist

    Kabbalist Member

    Hi,
    I'm from the Netherlands and I'm looking amazingly to the votingcircus in the Usa. There are a few things I really, really don't understand!

    * Can somebody show me the difference between Kerry and Bush? The main 'difference' is that Kerry's against the war. Bush would be against the war either if Kerry was president! Every president would act the same after 9/11!

    * What is the reason for spending so much money for the voting race? I can't even imagine how much people could eat from it in the 3rd world, it's absurd!

    * Why is de popularity of Bush going down by the photo's of the Abu Grhaib prison? He can not be held responsible for this. I think Americans act so hysterical, like: whooo! some kind of photo! Let's blame Bush! BULLSHIT!

    I don't want to be part of this stupid electioncomedy, but as rest of the world we must! Can someone explain to me what's going on?
    Thanks a lot!
     
  2. smartass

    smartass Member

    Sure, I'll help ya out. I'm an American, I live in Pennsylvania, I'm 18 and a political junkie.

    -Bush is a conservative Republican, Kerry is a liberal Democrat
    -Bush is staunchly pro-life, Kerry is staunchly pro-choice
    -Bush is a stainch capitalist, Kerry leans more toward SOCIALISM.
    -Bush has always been for the Iraq war, Kerry has FLIP-FLOPPED on supporting it many times.
    -Kerry will politicize WHATEVER HE CAN for political gain, Bush will not.
    -Kerry has a BLIND allegiance to the corrupt, ineffective, and anti-semitic United Nations. Bush will recognize them, but not be their puppet.
    -Bush is for protecting our sociert from radical judges who want to enforce their views upon us all by bravely calling for the passing of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Kerry says he's oppossed to gay marriage, but will do NOTHING to stop it.
    -Kerry constantly makes FALSE accusations against Bush and will use WHATEVER HE CAN to smeat his name.
    -Bush wants to keep giving us tax relief, Kerry wants to hike the hell out of them.
    -Kerry lied about his fellow soldiers in Vietnam, Bush served honorably in the National Guard.

    I think that should help.
     
  3. LuciferSam

    LuciferSam Member

    Oh yes, Bush never milked 9-11 for political gain, of course.

    What?? The UN is the reason why Israel exists in the first place. Explain how they're anti-Semitic. Just being critical of Israel's militant Middle-Eastern policy does not make one anti-Semitic.

    So we're in danger of being forced to not force certain people from getting married. That's a new twist.

    Not sure if Bush needs the help. At any rate, you should know full well that the mud-slinging has gone both ways.

    Read "us" as "rich people."

    That's for sure, those soldiers in Vietnam would have been in an even worse plight if it weren't for Bush honorably covering their backs from way back home in the National Guard :)
     
  4. LuciferSam

    LuciferSam Member

    Kerry isn't exactly against the war, it's still not popular enough to say you're for ending the war altogether, unfortunately. Like with the Cold War, both the Dems and the GOP are going to try to one-up each other in terms of who manages the war on terrorism, now that it's been set into motion. Kerry and Bush simply differ in how the war should further be handled.

    So much money is spent on the election race because it's a fact that whoever has the most campaign dough tends to win. It's all about shmoozing corporations for campaign funds.

    Bush may not have been directly involved in taking the pictures and whatnot, but he's still the head of the military, and this war is pretty much Bush's war - after all, he's the "war president." So he does have some responsibility. Truman used to have a slogan, "The Buck Stops Here," meaning the passing of responsibility ends at the White House. Stuff as serious as the prison abuse scandals warrants accountability from up high. I don't know if I'd go so far as to pin most of the blame on Bush, but I think Rumsfeld should step down.
     
  5. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    This War President has two slogans of his own "Just trust us!" and "It's all Clinton's fault!".

    Not exactly the same calibre of integrity as that expressed by Truman, i'm sad to say.
     
  6. Re-ElectGore

    Re-ElectGore Member

    Kerry is NOT a socialist
     
  7. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  8. Kabbalist

    Kabbalist Member

    Thanks a lot for the replies. Now I know a lot more, but I don't know which one I would choose if I was an American... I rather be Dutch!
     
  9. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

    i've always thought the mass quanitities of cash spent on the pres race. it's all spent on advertising that you can't really trust, mudslinging and propaganda.

    i think kerry's pretty weak. i think he's an elitist wolf in sheep's clothing. i don't think anything will be any different under kerry than it is under bush, except we can expect more flip-flopping.

    i'm pretty disappointed in the candidates, again, this election round. i'll probably toss my vote to the libertarians again.
     
  10. LaughinWillow

    LaughinWillow Member

    Kerry and Bush are actually cousins who belonged to the same secret fraternity (Skull & Bones) - the same fraternity also linked to the Masonic Lodge society.

    There ain't no difference. They've been running the same scam for over 50 years.
     
  11. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

    Can someone say brainwashed?
     
  12. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

    -Bush is a conservative Republican, Kerry is a conservative-moderate Democrat
    -Bush is a stainch capitalist, Kerry is also a capitalist and will do nothing to persue socialism
    -Bush has always been for the Iraq war (after all it was his idea), Kerry has FLIP-FLOPPED on supporting it many times (like the majority of people)
    -Kerry will politicize WHATEVER HE CAN for political gain, Bush will also.
    -Kerry has a BLIND allegiance to the United Nations. Bush has a blind allgeiance to his own Corrupt, vile, anti-semetic, oppressive country.
    -Bush is a homophobe, kerry is also but wont do anything to stop homosexuality for the liberal votes
    -Kerry constantly makes FALSE accusations against Bush, and vice versa.
    -Bush wants to keep giving the rich tax relief, Kerry doesn't.
    -Kerry and bush both dishonorably served in the military.


    Just had to change a few things -
    Mui.
     
  13. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

    yeah, mui, except i don't think that kerry is genuine even in his devotion to the UN. i can't help but think it's just a way to garner the votes of the people in the usa who want to see the UN paid more respect. once he's in, i wouldn't be surprised to see him flip on that as well.
     

  14. Wrong!

    weird how one conservative was wrong and the other spectrum is also wrong.

    Kerry has a medal of honor. that's not dishonorable.

    he also has several other military medals.

    he unlike Bush did not dodge the draft...he went to Vietnam and was a POW like John McCain.


    and the last I checked..Kerry isnt lying about Bush. Bush is a liar period.


    Kerry may be a flip-flopper...but he's only human and he wants to pull troops from Iraq unlike Bush who wants to keep them there and then go after various other countries when he's through tearing up Iraq.



    But (aghast) like Willow said. these guys are cut from the same rock. same schooling...same brotherhoods...they both want power.


    but Kerry is the lesser of the evils and for now...I'm willing to take that since no other candidate stands a chance in beating Bush
     
  15. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

    Uhh i wasnt wrong... what a person does in the military isnt up for the government to decide if its honorable or not... its up to the person... and i dont think being in the military is honorable at all... no matter how many innocent people you murder. :)
     
  16. ok so bush dodged the draft so he didnt have to kill people?? is that what your're saying as if it makes a difference that he is sending OTHER people to die for their country when he couldnt when he was 18?? that's sooo honorable let me tell ya
     
  17. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

    screw helping the system that murders people
     
  18. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

    Dude, that was COMPLETELY bias, how can you take advantage of someone from another country who doesnt understand american politics like that? haha. Sure, I will always be the first to say kerry is no Angel of a canidate, and there isn't many differences between the two canidates, and it has been like that for a while here in america, two conservatives labeled "Republican" and "democrat". When people say Bush "stands up for what he thinks is right" all i hear is "hes a stubborn asshole who won't admit he made a mistake". If the conspiracy theories are UNTRUE, and Kerry isn't a secret Skull and Bones Member, establishing the one world government just as Bush :), i would much rather see Kerry in office, of course if i had a choice it would be Kucnich all the way! But basically what I mean to say is, if you feel there are good things about Bush, go ahead and share them, but don't try and beat the hell out of Kerry, to me Kerry is only a TINY bit better then Bush, mostly because the fact that other nations won't listen to Bush because him and his administration got us into this mess, BUT they will be more inclined to listen to Kerry because he was elected during the war and is looking for a way to leave.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  19. Megara

    Megara Banned

    While i wouldnt compare bush's military record to kerry...whose record could only be questioned by McCain in the government....Bush did NOT draft dodge. The national guard(especially the air) was often called up to fight in vietnam. The texas and alabama national guards were not. Cheney and many others dodged the bush by seeking academic exemptions. Bush, while he didnt fight in vietnam..did NOT draft dodge
     
  20. uriah

    uriah Member

    I don't know if he draft dodged or not, its a good thing that Bush was protecting Texas from the Commies.;) But seriously, you'll like whoever you want.
     

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