Nietzsche

Maybe Nietzsche was the very first true hippie......for many reasons, but specialy for the contradictions of his writings........
One of the first hippie graffitti i saw, on a wall in Paris, in 1971 (I was living on the road, on my way to Amsterdam), was a psychadelic painting with these words........"DYE BEFORE YOU ARE 30 YEARS OLD TO BE A BEAUTIFUL CORPS"..............

 

Awe c'mon. I've seen good looking older people that would make great looking corpses.

 

they'll be so eventually, with lots of make-up or special-effects........anyway i was expecting a comment about Nietzsch and not about an anonymous graffitti.......

 

i love him.

i don't think he was a first hippie, though... he was much more than that. i think he was the most intelligent and conscious philosopher ever.

 

Spurning ideals like compassion and pity makes you a hippy?

Wow. News to me.

He did enjoy his hash though.

 

Dear Sooner, read Nietzsche and not what others wrote about him........in the meantime, can you explain to me why hash is a fundamental requirement to define a hippie??

 

I always meant to read some of his stuff. Morrison was his biggest fan.

 

true. they are both amazing.

of course they cannot be compared, but he had a big influence on jim.

 

I have, jackass. I took a course on Nietzschean philosophy based on direct readings (plus Heidigger and assorted other German philosophers of the era). And you've just managed to prove to me that you barely (if at all) understand anything he wrote. Not that this is supposed to be a pissing contest, but if you understand his concept of Ubermensch at all, you'd know that it is specifically concerned about abandoning such Christian concepts.

That was sarcasm.

 

Dear sarcastic spooner...............the course you took was a one day course?? And where?? Moscow University ?? Maybe you took it sitting on the backyard fence............
....you called me a jackass.......can you talk without insulting the listener??
Gee, wish i took that course.....

 

quote....."but if you understand his concept of Ubermensch at all, you'd know that it is specifically concerned about abandoning such Christian concepts."

Dear spooner, remember that christians concepts fed Inquisition for a long time.....if there is something i hate is a auto-da-fé.....not to mention the rest........

 

You're certainly doing an excellent job of proving any knowledge - and it was UBC, if you're curious. I could care less about your opinion, but to anybody who isn't sure what to believe: google Nietzsche and Compassion.

Of course I can, and I would if I thought you deserved anything better.

I wish you had as well, because maybe then you'd know a thing or two. If my textbooks weren't in storage, I'd give you some direct quotes. Until then, here's a little Wikipedia for you:

"In short, Nietzsche stated that the goal of mankind is to produce a being who can take absolute responsibility for himself, and that this can only be achieved by transcending nihilism, represented most prominently by Christian and platonic ideals."

 

How is this relevant?

 

Nietzsche saw the Artist as the Superman.


Nietzsche believed that Art must be ruthlessly piercing and uncompromising.

Nietzsche saw Judeo-Christian compassion as nothing more than a phoney passive-aggressive hypocrasy.

Though too repressed himself to be a Hippie, Nietzsche yearned for a vision of life as art.

A Dionesian vision of a wild orgasmic liberation of dancing under a grecian moon.

 

A life as art, yes, maybe, if the übermensch itself feels like it.
He invisioned the Übermensch as a person who will only do things, because he wants to do them, without regarding other people.
So, I concur with the first poster that Nietszche was the first hippie.

 

So, dear spooner, your fountains of knowledge are Google and Wikipedia...........gee, I thought for a minute that your favourite "site" was THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS........

 

Like I said, all of my books are in boxes for the summer. At any rate, you're both a)just trying to yank my chain and b)making an ass of yourself.

I'm going to let this go.

 

dear spooner...........thank you so much for your understanding..............one thing for sure - even requested, i wont talk dirty to you.......

 

I had read few of Nietzsche's book. I loved it.

 

The english jesuit Frederick Copleston, has recognized that "despite his hostility towards christianism, Nietzsche always respected true christians.........and Hegel wrote that his philosophy, considering the existing degradation, was a rebellion against that degradation.............Nietzsche fight against institucionalized hyprocrisy