New to Salvia...

Well I don't have all my facts about Salvia Divinorum. What I do know is:

1. I live in Pennsylvania and it's legal, so that's a plus.
2. There are very (I use that word loosely) drugs tests that actually test for it.
3. Although the high lasts for several minutes to a half hour, the experience is incredible and unlike any other.

I'm just wondering if I were to try it sometime in the near future, what I will be in store for. Best ways to smoke it, preventing any bad occurences, personal experiences, etc. are all welcome. I'm just wondering if, in fact, it will live to its hype and it's worth trying.

Also, I am not new to hallucinogens or bad trips. So I know what they are like.

 

The best (and arguably only) way to smoke salvia is through a bong, bubbler or any other smoking device that can give you a big enough hit to give you the desired effect. I know through personal experience that you can't really use pipes and definitely not joints to smoke it.

Make sure you're either alone, or with people you're close to to help you through the trip. Salvia is known to cause bad trips if the setting and energy aren't right. For the most part, as long as you're mature about using it and accept what the plant is presenting to you in the form of the trip, you should be just dandy.

My experiences with Salvia have definitely been worth it. I have gained lots of knowledge about the universe and about myself through the substance I highly recommend it.

 

Thanks. Is it similar to LSD or does it give you like a strong body high? What is the experience like?

 

Well, if you have a breakthrough experience you might not even be in your body, but usually for bodily effects you can feel a heavy pulling or gravity, and tingly sometimes. It's not similar to LSD because you definitely cannot function while under the influence of salvia because it is so intense. You might feel that you are becoming a part of the earth, the floor, or anything you can relate with. When you come out of the trip it is very uplifting because the entire trip can be amazingly powerful and spiritual and it seems like it lasted so much longer than the actual time that had passed.

 

One more question. I heard that smoking too much Salvia can be extremely dangerous, so I was just wondering how much is too much? For a newcomer like myself, how much is a good amount to spend on my first time?

 

Hmm I'm not really sure if you can or can't overdose, but all you'll need is a fingernail's worth (about a bowl) of extract if that's what you plan on smoking. I don't have any experience with smoking the natural leaf yet.
Oh, and it's not about the amount that you smoke, it's how big your first hit is, and how long you hold it in for. Smoking more salvia after the first or second hit doesn't do much and is wasteful IMO, but to each their own.

For more information and experiences visit: http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/

 

Thanks a lot man. Why didn't I turn to erowid earlier? duoy!

 

cleansed summed it up pretty well the only thing I slightly differ on is that if its your first time take 2 hits at least , large hits and hold them for a bit, put down the bong after the 2nd one and hold the second one in until you sit or lie down and naturally exhale. You have a 45 second window to smoke it in and you may feel shifts in perception after that 1st hit but the 2nd one is usually where the truly psychedelic effects happen for people new to the drug. Also if you botch one hit because the smoke didn't agree with you remember 45 seconds so don't rush it but be diligent and don't sit there admiring the smoke when you exhale. Also unlike pot keep a lighter on the material the whole time you are smoking it, especially if you are not using a torch lighter.

No one has overdosed from it, some people black out but that's why you should have a trip sitter present initially.

 

salvia is different than anything else, so expect to be completely shocked if you have a strong trip. it doesn't matter how much you have experienced with other substances, nothing can prepare you to salvia. it's unique. so don't take it lightly.

but no, you can't overdose from it. if the dose is too strong, you'll just black out and be back in no more than ten minutes.

trip sitters have a different role when you're doing salvia, they don't have to bring you out of bad feelings, they just have to protect you from harming yourself if you try to get up and move. but they are really necessary. you can do very dangerous things without even knowing.

and the other advices in this thread are great, keep them.

 

you wont feel as if you are under the effect of a drug, so much as being ensnared by some alien being.

 

I'm excited to try it for the first time. I'm going the tincture route. Any advice or experience with tinctures??

 

Ive not heard too many positive reports with tinctures, but I have not tried it myself. Good luck!

 

best advice I can give you is make sure you are seated comfortably. speaking from experience, you do not want to be standing when it takes you. you will be looking at the floor, mumbling about absolutely nothing, looking for a place to sit on a floor that seems to be miles away.

"I got a real funny feeling I'm about to fall down; I hope I find my way to the ground. I'd hate to spend the whole night floating around in the condition I'm in"

 

Well I tried it last night and I'm having a hard time deciding if I was fantasizing or dreaming or if it was the tincture. I'm thinking it was the tincture. I had my ipod going with Sleepy Sun on random to set the mood. But all of a sudden I was looking at this light on my wall and I couldn't figure out if it was the moon or car lights when on any other night I would know for fact it was just the street light. Kind of boring I know. But then my thoughts were just all over the place. Then at one point I was thinking I was in a forest? But then someone turned on the hall light and I was back in my room. So then I decided to masturbate and that was definitely great. I was more in tune to the feelings. Then I guess I fell asleep. I woke up and took my headphones off and unplugged my charged phone. I was really groggy. My dreams were all over the place like my thoughts had been. Usually I have very detailed dreams which I can recall the next day. These dreams were just crazy. From what I've read, it usually takes a few times before people get a true experience. So I'm not giving up. I feel like I could have a really profound session. Call me crazy but I've already bought a different higher quality brand Sage Goddess Emerald Essence. I've read many great reviews of that one. But I'll try again tomorrow with the stuff I already have.

 

^ You should try a standardized extract to compare with unless you're against smoking, that tincture stuff sounds kind of weak but those effects you have reported are among some of the more interesting I've read.

Its supposedly onergenic (sp?) and used to facilitate dreams.

I'm not sure if you just swallowed it but maybe try holding it under your tounge next time as I don't think salvinorin a (the psychoactive compound) is all that affective through oral metabolization.

 

Yea I first mixed it (2 dropperfuls) with a bit of warm honey because that stuff burns. I must say... and I did hold it under my tongue for about 20 mins. Then I did it again with another dropperful and some water for another 20 mins under the tongue. I also swallowed both batches. The taste really isn't as bad as people say. I was reading that people find it absorbs better when you brush your teeth and tongue and use mouthwash beforehand. So I'll try that next time. There's also articles out there with different instructions. So idk I'll play around with it. The stuff I got from arenabotanicals didn't come with any instructions and there really isn't any online either. But the 2nd tincture I got comes with detailed instuctions. I feel like I'll have better luck with that one.

 

So I tried it for the second time today during the day. I did it the same way but I mixed 3 dropperfuls with a little warm honey and after 20 mins I swallowed that and did another dropperful with a little water for another 15 mins. I could def feel some effects. First I felt this energy rush to my head. Everything seemed hazy. This began after the first 20 mins. Then I noticed the energy surrounding objects moved it waves. Sort of hard to explain. But it was like the shadows moved downwards towards the floor in waves. I stood up after swallowing the second batch and it was a similar feeling to drinking. Like my legs and feet were moving slower than normal. I walked around for a little bit to experience it. I was looking at this Andy Warhol poster I have and it dawned on me how much I wanted to feel that feeling when you experience, "beauty" all the time, with everything. So after staring at the poster for a little longer I sat down and wrote the following:
"Why can't we feel that feeling ALL the time? That feeling when you first see something beautiful. Why doesn't that feeling of sublimity continue onto Everything?? Everything lacks emotion. I look at something and it's dead. Quiet. Like a sponge that has nothingness. Everything is 2D. I want that feeling of beauty for everything. I want to be in constant awe. That's why I feel so awkward."
Idk..just an interesting moment. It was pretty powerful when the idea hit me. Then I took a shower which felt nice. After a while the feeling faded so I took a drive to enjoy the day. I do feel a little more awakened this time. Something stuck with me. But It was still somewhat lacking. I'm looking forward to trying the other tincture to compare. I can def say that I experienced something this time, though.

 

lol i have to agree with this guy, salvia is really something oh boy. but its no shrooms or lsd and if your not in a PERFECT environment then chances are your going to have a bad trip. i would use trip loosely but no matter what happens,good or bad, it can and probably will definably classify as a trip.

 

Fuckit think I will buy some Salvia for the end of term, the shop here sells different strength extracts, I can't remember whats the highest n lowest they do, probably pretty standard strengths.

Which strength should one go for for first salvia trip?

Also, BG specifically, when you say take 2 hits from a bong. People smoke bongs differently, when I smoke a bong I tuck a pinch of tobacco in the bottom of the bowl n stack weed atop it, burn it all and pull it through the bowl n down the tube.

Others leave the contents in the bowl, don't pull it all through. Are you saying take 2 hits as in, don't burn it all thru at once ala the second way?

 

Don't use a bong! Unlike weed, the active chemicals in salvia are water soluble so you'll be wasting a bunch of it if you filter it through water. either use a pipe and take a really long draw, or use a gravity bong/bucket/waterfall/whatever it's called in your area.