New Simpsons episodes.

Discussion in 'Europe' started by wolf_at_door, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Honored Simpsons-freaks...

    Tonight I saw the first two episodes of the new Simpsons; the new season of The Simpsons had premiere in danish television tonight, and I just saw the first two episodes, 314 and 315.

    Especially 315, where Homer once again met his mom. And the end of the episode was phantastic!!

    I'm looking forward to see more new episodes. Untill now, the new season seems to be cool. :cool:

    love and understanding,

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  2. migle

    migle Senior Member

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    I don't know why, but I don't like the last few seasons. I admit that it's so difficult to maintain that high level, but they're becoming so dumb with some themes, like explaining all the jokes three times as if we hadn't enough brain to understand them. I know they have to do because of the yankees, but please, don't insult our intelligence.
     
  3. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    I think I understand your point, migle. But I only agree partly.
    I will agree that some newer episodes was lame; especially the one when they were in Brazil - that was a lame episode, imo.
    The style of Simpsons is about constructing stereotypes. That's for sure. But these stereotypes target the society, and it does not target the stereotypes themselves. That's why I think Simpsons are genious; there are so much political satire 'in between the lines', and you can recognize this critique in almost any scene at any episode. The two new episodes I saw, also contained a huge pile of political satire.
    I'm an optimist about the new season, at least. :)

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  4. migle

    migle Senior Member

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    Yeah, I agree, that's because I was so unhappy with some of the new episodes, but it's because I also think they are genious, and I love Homer of course (who doesn't?). Anyway I'll say forever that Homer is the best character on TV ever.
     
  5. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    I think the reason why anyone (including me) love Homer, is because he represents the true loser within ourselfes, that we don't dare to express to our surroundings.
    Homer is not just an anti-hero; he's a meta-anti-hero!!! :)

    p.s. I edited a few words in my first reply - not to change the meaning, just to make my meaning more clear. please read it, migle, and speak out if you want to change your reply.
    Sorry that I changed it after you replied. (but I only changed it a bit to make my point more clear; I didn't change point).
     
  6. migle

    migle Senior Member

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    No problem with the changes, as you said, it doesn't change the point.

    I wouldn't say Homer is a looser or a anti-hero. In Spain we see him as the typical medium and middle-aged Spanish, I see him as my father, hehehehe, and probably as I'll be in some years, but in the aspect, all fat and loving beer more than any other thing LOLOLOL.
     
  7. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Yep, that's what I mean about the term "loser". The more someone hits the definition of mediocracy, the more this person will reach what I call a "loser". But it's not bad, as long that person recognize oneself not to be a hero. Only recognizing oneself to be an anti-hero will bring wisdom into the life of the loser. My aim is to reach wisdom and therefore my aim must be to be a loser.
     
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    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Definately, Blackie. The biggest threat against Matt Groenings original idea about "The Simpsons", is capital interests (that obviously will cause a reaction, materialized as strikes). Strikes are good, but it shows that Simpsons have becomed a hierarchical money-machine, and that makes me sad.:(

    I think "The Simpsons" as idea is still keeping strong against capital-logics. I still think Simpsons are cool, but the idea is definately threatened by capital interests. :(
     
  9. Shadowplay

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    Ah, The Simpsons! They're showing season 13 (again) in Sweden at the moment, and the guy who translated that one claims to be working on season 14 right now, so I'm hoping for it to air soon. I couldn't care less for subtitles, of course, but I don't have any foreign channels showing The Simpsons, so I'll just have to wait. :(

    Regarding favourite lines, I particularly like this one from the episode when they go to Canada. As Homer is crossing the road, Marge yells something like "watch out!" to which Homer replies (just before being hit by a car) "It's okay, they have free healthcare!" Excellent. :D
     
  10. migle

    migle Senior Member

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    In Spain it happened a very curious but sad thing. The man who translated Homer died. And he was really great, he put the voice you could imagine in Homer (in Spanish of course, the "ouch's" will never be the same). This guy died when they had translated the 10th or the 11th season, I can't remember, and all of us, freaks of The Simpsons, were very sad.

    And remaining some of the best episodes, who remember that episode of Mr. X and The Island, where they drugged Homer and the German double of Homer. What a great episode.
     
  11. Shadowplay

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    Oh, you get The Simpsons dubbed in Spain? Didn't realise that. Is everything dubbed, like in Germany, or only certain types of tv-programmes? I remember they tried dubbing The Simpsons in Sweden as well in the very beginning, but the storm of protests from the viewers was overwhelming, so they changed back to subtitles after only a couple of episodes. On Swedish tv, they only dub cartoons for children, and I think they probably misunderstood what this show was all about. Well, at least they learnt their lesson! :)
     
  12. Megara

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    do you make an anti american comment everytime you talk?

    "Hi mom, fucking yankees!, i was good, fucking yankees! how was your day? fucking yankees!"

    yawn.
     
  13. duckandmiss

    duckandmiss Pastafarian

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    Actually I have to go with Megara with this, your comment seemed demeaning and rather cruel and unwarrented, especially in talking about one of my favorite shows, created by a yankee.


    And I am curious,

    And he was really great, he put the voice you could imagine in Homer (in Spanish of course, the "ouch's" will never be the same).

    Are the "ouches" the sound Homer makes when he screws something up? If they are the translation is rather funny.
     
  14. Shadowplay

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    Migle's comment may have been a bit harsh, but I think it's fairly common among Europeans to be frustrated by the oversimplified form of many American tv-shows. I can't say I have noticed this in The Simpsons, but it's very obvious in many sitcoms, talk shows etc. The worst thing I can think of is the common practice in many programmes of showing what's going to happen later on, right before going to commercials. The habit of breaking off scenes in the middle, as some kind of cliffhanger, is also very annoying since we don't have as many commercial breaks and just see the screen fade to black for a second before the action continues. This makes you feel like you're watching something that was made only to fill out the space between commercials, which isn't very encouraging. I like many American tv-shows, and watch them daily since they basically don't show much else on tv, :H, but sometimes you wish that the people making these shows would dare to challenge our intelligence a bit more. I've begun to see much more of this lately though (as a counter-attack to all the 'reality' garbage), so there's still hope. :sunglasse
     
  15. migle

    migle Senior Member

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    HAHAHAHAHAHA, Thanks Megara you made me laugh.
    No, I told you in other thread, I just get sick about certain things, but you seem to defend all of your government decisions, I have not seen yet anything bad of your country in any of your posts. It seems as if you always agree with all of your country's acts. Here in Europe we're very hard with all of our governments and so we're with the others.

    And btw, fucking yankees!!!! :p
     
  16. migle

    migle Senior Member

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    I'm sorry, the problem I have is that my English is not good enough yet to be able to express my opinion as I would like to. So, many times my comments are more rude than what I want to say.

    And btw, fucking yankees!!!!!!!! :p
     
  17. Megara

    Megara Banned

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    yeah, many american shows target the most base emotions in people, but then again what tv shows are you watching? There are a wide variety of tv, media in america is a huge market and there are literally billions of shows on everything imaginable..to lump them all into one category is foolish.

    I know when i travel overseas and i watch foreign tv, i cant help but laugh and wonder whats wrong with people who think these shows are funny or even remotely good. Thats where our differences are, we all see things and evaluate them differently. You may think seinfeld is stupid, i think its hilarious. You may think married with children is base and vulgar, i think its absolutely great. I find most foreign humor dry, monty python is great, but a lot of other british humor is dull, imo.

    We have gone way to far with the reality tv, WAY too far, some some are great(amazing race).

    I think in the end, why American media is so popular and able to spread around the globe is that it caters to your average person, there are certain emotions and thoughts which i think run through the majority of people, and hollywood targets those. Thats why american movies can sell a billion dollars in tickets, and a foreign films cant even hit 100 million.
     
  18. Megara

    Megara Banned

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    There are many things i defend and many things i dont defend. There is very, very little i'd defend bush on(tax cuts, handling iraq for example), and many things i'd defend america on(cold war tactics for example).

    For example i agree that the iraq war is just, but i dont agree with how bush handled it. Then again, i think the whole world fucked up on iraq for many, many years. It is a mistake we've all made.
     
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    migle Senior Member

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    Yep, we get everything dubbed in Spain, here it's like in France or in Germany or in Italy, we dub everything. But I think we're wrong in this subject, because if we watched more original version TV, our English skill would much better than how they are now.
     
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    Megara Banned

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    yeah dubbed stuff is stupid...half the show is the character voices...i'd like to hear a swedish apu!
     

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