Sorry about the duplicate post but i think it's relevant to both boards http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7953 Anyoen seen this before? By putting tryptamine hcl into growing mushrooms you can increase psilocin content by 100-300x normal content. however psilocybin content drops to practically 0 and this is the main chem that survives drying so these wouldnt be practical commercially but for personal use eating these fresh shrooms, this would save you a lot of mushrooms or let you trip 5x harder off the same number of shrooms. Apparently using DMT you extract from plants would have the same effect and would be renewable and cheaper without arousing suspicion from chem vendors. Secondly and more interesting is the possibility of the creation of 4-Ho-5-Meo-DMT. Almost impossible to synthesise but (according to the shulgins) if you use the property of shrooms that lets it 4-hydroxilise then by putting 0.1g of 5-meo-dmt purchased off of RC vendors instead of tryptamine Hcl then you could be one of few, if any, people out there ever to have tried this compound. Remember though 5-meoing substances normally increases the potency considerably. Also interesting is the possiblity of doing this with any tryptamine with a 5 chain and no 4 chain. You could have bufotenine/psilocin hybrid (bufolocin?) 4,5-dihydroxy-dimethyltryptamine. You could do the same thing and have a foxy methoxy/psilocin hybrid 4-hydroxy-5-methoxy-diisopropyltryptamine. This might work with the AMTs as well who knows. It could also be tried with the DPTs as well. If there are any growers out there you gotta try this and report back please, i am really really curious.
Is there even any approximate data about the potency or effects of 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT? As far as one is aware while 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT or 4,5-HO-MeO-DMT has been previously synthesized, it has never been taken by man. One is not even aware of any animal toxicity studies etc. It could be a novel psychedelic or it could be a potent neurotoxin… who really knows! While a mycelium network probably could do a good job of adding a 4-HO onto any number of compounds, the real question is are you willing to take an unknown amount of a truly unknown chemical? Consider carefully before creating or ingesting any truly novel agents… I B
well in this case there would be no option but to start with a small amount (maybe like 1/8 of one mushroom) and gradually work your way up, in much the same way as Ann and Alexander shulgin did with many, many previously unknown substances.
Well they would likely have to be standardized as it would be difficult to predict where the 5-MeO-xxx was carried and which portion of the mycelium contained the highest concentration… I B
Yea I've read about this before. You do an A/B on a large amount of bark and you put the product in your rice caked. That shit just sounds crazy man, I heard it only takes like a half a gram for a boomer VETERAN to feel effects so strong that they are on the edge of not able to handle. Never did it myself, so this is all just what I've read.
^2cesarewild is that in regard to DMT fortification or actual 5-MeO-DMT extractions possibly resulting in an end compound of 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT? I B
Well I'm no expert chem buff, but depending on what plant material you use, you could get a mix of 5-meo-dmt and n,n-dmt from the a/b extraction. I guess this would lead to a mix of 4-HO's.? IDK I'd get schooled by anybody on chemistry. lol i'm not down for trying anything untested in humans that ends in 'dimethyltryptamine.' Crazy shit right there IMO.
yeah if you want a 6x more potent psilocin only mushroom you gotta put in 10g of mimosa hostilis rootbark (nn dmt only) apparently into your growing jar. If you want the new compounds then it would be easier to use pure chems off of an RC vendor. I wonder if the peeps on shroomery are largely aware of the RC scene? If they don't try this out on their grow set-ups purely cos they can't get 5-meo that would be a big loss to the psychedelic using community in general.
This 4,5-HO-MeO-DMT thing might prove being orally inactive afer all ;-) Nah but I would not defenitely be the one who would give it the very first try ;-) Anyway it sounds just amazing and once again it shows us wide range of nature powers we're yet to discover ;-)
check out shulgins website. he talks about injectin some rc into shrooms to make a new type of shroom compund. intersting...i am to lazy to get the link...its easy to find. go to cognitiveliberty.com
