new Boing 777 LR

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by shaggie, Feb 15, 2005.

  1. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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  2. Green Shades

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    Airbus rules anyway ;)

    But please don't take this as offense, it's just a glimpse of hope of a new order of balance for the world. If Airbus is able to put top-armory-producer Boeing to sweat, it could lead to a safer future.
     
  3. cotter builds

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    the thing is airbus is building inefficient and costly planes. boeing is simply putting out a better plane at a faster rate. airbus will be gone in the future.
     
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    Believe me it's not at all like this. Airbus has improved performance during the last decade. But if you think that Boing is better planes...
    :)
     
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    Its hard to see which is better, you need to fill the Airbus to make it worthwhile, but if you are filling it on the heavy routes, I think it will work. Heavy routes like London-Sydney or London-LA I think the airbus will own. However on less popular routes like Washington-Baghdad, the smaller more fuel efficient Boeing will be better.
     
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    I guess this was meant more general, like on the two companies and on technical terms.

    On technical aspects you have to consider the different types of hull-construction and of cockpit design etc.
     
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    hull construction my ass....look at the super guppy or even that monstrosity the A780? god awfully ugly and they require more maintanence. if the government wasnt supporting them financially they would fall in two years.
     
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    Wow, I didn't know they were already on the sevenhundreds. Last information I got two weeks ago, was that they passed on A400 now.

    I see you are a real conaisseur.
     
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    Lets be fair about this, both Boeing and Airbus are being propped up by their respective backers. Both sides are using military agencies to spy on each other. It would be funny if it wasnt so sad.
     
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    I know. And the game is even funnier without military agencies. It's just hilarious that Boeing started to spy the "little" concurrent.


    Anyway:

    [​IMG]

    By the courtesy of Airbus-Transport.
     
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    yeah, i dont know airbus. but i know that theyre inferior to boeing. you sure as hell dont see airbus sending things into space do you? whos building the ISS? boeing thats who. so i was thinking bout the 380. its still far too impractical a plane. dont provide enough service for the cost it takes to maintain the plane and facilities for it.
     
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    You're so cute. You even admit, you don't know. If you don't get how European aero-space-industry is working, get yourself informed. I guess you think so because you're told to think so. Who needs information if he got propaganda? This isn't meant to offend you, it's meant to make you think.


    Anyway:

    [​IMG]


    By the courtesy of Airbus and Virgin Atlantic
     
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    no ones building the ISS. America is getting out of space faster than it got into Iraq, though I suppose theres no oil in space. Lets face it that with the possible exception of China everyones space program is on the slide. Without exception everyones space program is a joke.
     
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    Yes, Bush is cutting down Space-funds as usually for Republican presidents, and I thought most of the American contribution on the ISS was made by Lockheed, as usual. I still wonder how USA will go to Mars with so low subsidies.

    It's such a pity that spaceflight is neglected that way recently. A landing on Mars will have similar boosting effect on science and technology as almost 40 years ago the Moon landing.

    But, I guess this is not the topic of this thread.

    Thus I post this:
    [​IMG]

    (C) NASA, Airbus
     
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    is that the reminants of an Orion underneath that guppy rip off?
     
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    ? I don't get you. Can you tell me what you mean?
     
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    That picture you posted of the NASA plane that looks like a copied version ofthe Airbus transporter. The wings and bottom part of the fuselage look like the Lockheed Orion. I wondered if it was a modified version.
     
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    No the last one is the Super Guppy given to NASA by ESA on request for there is no comparable American plane. The first one with the smaller plane being loaded is the new Beluga, there are some differences between both of them, though both are Airbusses. The second one I posted is an A380, but it's just a computer graphic from Virgin Atlantic.
     
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