Never get busted again - by Toke1234

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by toke1234, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. toke1234

    toke1234 Member

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    After reviewing the the video's and studying and studying for hours straight I took the video of the ex-narc officer / smoker into consideration, and mixed that in with my expereince in dealing on the street. When transporting large sums of marijuana there is two ways to go about it. Seal it and the open talk, or refusal talk and open.

    Seal it, and open talk. This is the way I would recommend if your around the city. You get pulled over for a routine traffic stop whether its speeding or running a redlight. You got a lb. lf maryjane in the trunk hidden real well in air tight jars thats drilled in a speaker box. He ask to search your car? Yes you hear never concent of a search. He goes and gets the dogs. The dogs will find your stuff. If he ask to search your car, most likely he's just going to shine his light around your trunk check any bags, check glove box, consoles, ash trays, and more. He's not going to go into undrilling speaker boxes and gas tanks when your perfectly cooperative.

    Open with refusal to search. This is what most people would choose on here, but 99% of the time once you refuse to consent to a search the dogs are coming and they will find whatevers in your car.

    In my theory your better off to hide your stuff deep, and consent to a search.
     
  2. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Ummm no, you should never consent to a search regardless of how its packaged or how much you have. If a cop wants to search you he is going to. If you do not consent there are two things that can happen. He knows he is lacking probable cause and will let you go. Or he will lie about probable cause/radio a k9 unit. But either way, if you consent your ability to challenge the search as illegal in court is gone.
     
  3. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I do see what youre saying though. I dont know thats just a big risk because you could get someone who is going to search absolutely everything, and not do some quick scan with a flashlight. What if they shake the speaker? I actually dont know whats best for you thats your call. Thats why I wouldnt have anything near a lb and dont sell. Im glad someone does it though stay safe bro.
     
  4. MOZMAN

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    But by co operating with the cop he's gonna have less reason to search you or your car more closely. ive had half an oz in my boxers before havin a chat and a joke with the cop. i was shitting myself but i got off with a warning for skipping a red and just drove straight home and got high.
     
  5. toke1234

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    Thats exactly what I'm saying. I've been in both situations before.

    You consent to a search, you have it well hidden, they just skim threw your glove box and gags, console, and a basic search.

    If you refuse well theres a 50/50% chance whether your going home or not.

    And if he can lift up my speaker box thats bolted down from the inside, and you have to take through the rear seats to get out, more power to him. :)
     
  6. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I see the point you both are making. But all im saying is you are counting on the fact the cop is going to be careless in his search. Most people "cooperate" with cops because they are afraid of them. And most cops would see someone who looks like a stoner and some speaker in the back, and take a closer look.

    If you know how to assert your rights its likely the cop is not going to search you. And if he does, you might have a chance of getting the charges dropped based on that. Its pretty important to say you do not consent to a search when asked. Also when asked to get out of the car, roll up the windows and then lock the doors right before you shut it as you are standing up. Have the windows close to being rolled up when getting pulled over, so you can quickly and casually shut them the rest of the way. Be polite but dont answer questions. If it looks like he is trying to hold you there or stall things, and keeps questioning, simply ask if you are free to go.
     
  7. CaptainBeefheartFan

    CaptainBeefheartFan Screwed Up

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    you may be safer, but I'd rather defend my rights, and if they find shit, then you take 'em to court and sue 'em for a warentless search
     
  8. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    so your sugesting that I should put mary jane in my subs? I wonder if it gets the bud extra engergized. lol. but I donno man Im real shady about that kind of stuff. I got my 12"s in my trunk but I dont think I would put any bud in those. Honestly I say if you want to transport, bring a backpack and take a cab. If its for that large of a quantity then a cab fair isnt too bad.
     
  9. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Well you could mainly appeal a conviction, but yeah you have the right idea
     
  10. jakesanders7

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    I don't see where that came from....
     
  11. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    when are you going to do that? when your family scrounges around to find the money to bail you out? then pay a lawyer to defend you?

    so you will spend at least some time in jail, you will waste thousands of dollars, and you have no evidence.

    i think its a much better to hide your shit well!
     
  12. MOZMAN

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    thing is that the feds look at your body language. surely youve heard that **** John Burnell say so. Ive found that co operating usually helps you out. arguing is like switching on a magnet for more police. If its a small amount in your duds or a larger amount in your speakers or whatever, playing it cool is definateley your best bit.

    I remember getting ragged in a stolen car with an OZ of slate pollen in my pocket. i was in the back and i pretended there was a child lock on the door and it wouldnt open. as my mate opened the door and covered piggies view i threw it under the car. We co operated with them and he didnt even search the car. just stuck a notice on the windows and we all got took down the nick. I got away with it being a passenger. I totally agree with what Toke1234 is saying here.
     
  13. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Well first off bro, and dont take this the wrong way but things are way different here than the uk. Its like straight up police-state drug-war here, and your cops dont even carry guns. If that scenario you just described had taken place where i live, you would have been fucked. We are subjects of a war that our govt is waging on us, and I dont know about everyone else but I want to stand up for my rights.
     
  14. MOZMAN

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    True i can understand your argument. If you had been pulled in a bent car in the states, the windows would have gone in and you'd be on the pavement. I guess its just knowing how to play the law in your home town?
     
  15. toke1234

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    Nah bro, Im not gonna argue with you. I completly understand. The law is differnt where you are and where I am. And I understand you sticking up for your rights, its just down here, you get hateful and un-willing with the cops
    then their going to search deeper once the can. Understand what I'm saying?
     
  16. toke1234

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    And about the 50/50 chance I was talking about when you refuse a search.

    Theres a 50% chance you'll go home free, and theres a 50% chance you'll be in jail.

    Reason? 50% chance that cop doesnt have probable cause nor does he care, so he might let you go. Another 50% chance he's going to call a dog which will find your stash.
     
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    Another thing I didn't feel like starting another thread here, so I figure I would see what you guys thought of it. The local smoke shop here that sells pipes, bongs and more, I was browsing through today to get the new digital scale they had coming in for me. Well noticed they have this new transporting container in. It read 100% seal proof. Had a weird suction type top. Wonder how could this thing works? :p
     
  18. FarmerJ

    FarmerJ Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    It all depends on what cops yr dealing with. If your transporting you must know the local conditions. From town to town and state to state the answer to the consent question is diffrent. Also if your just moving a lb or so around town, cab or bike is the safest way to go, although I guess that depends on where yuo live too.
     
  19. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Jokerman's Never Get Caught Tutorial:

    Lesson 1: Don't be stupid

    Lesson 2: Don't be fucking stupid

    Lesson 3: Stop being a stupid fucking idiot...

    repeat lessons 1-3 until you are no longer mentally retarded
     
  20. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    ^ best advice in the thread
     

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