Neo-cons fall, who’ll rise on the right?

Neo-cons fall, who’ll rise on the right?

Here are a few musings -

The Bush administration seems to have marked the high water mark of neo-conservative influence within the Republican Party, so what next, what faction will rise while they ebb?

To me Sarah Palin stinks of a dead end and I think many on the right smell that too. The religious right seem to be disillusioned and demographic seems to be is working against the old conservative alliances, so what next for the right?

Well, there is one group that could pitch themselves as been against virtually everything the neo-cons stood for, while remaining right wing even solidly Republican.

There are against foreign entanglements, don’t believe that national security overrides personal rights and although still in favour of a free market they rile against what they call the culture of ‘corporate welfare’ that existing in the US.

That means they can tap into all the resentments at failed policies across the board in America and so give back some creditability to a tarnished Republican Party.

I’m talking about Libertarian Republicans (sometimes known as right wing libertarians or conservative libertarians).

As a faction they could probably gain support amongst the states rights groups and the ‘individualist’ crowd but their difficulty would be with the more religious and traditionalist factions the subjects of contention being such things as drugs, abortion and prostitution where libertarians believing in individual rights as paramount would repeal restrictive laws and live the decision up to the individual.

But they could probably ditch the far religious right, knowing they would not vote for Democrats if they could persuade enough people that they were ‘new’ and nothing like the ‘old’ Republican Party (of which a distance from the religious right might help).

Any views

 

I agree I think the huge groundswell for Ron Paul should have shown them where the strength of the party really lay. But they didn't seem to even address the disenranchized Paul supporters, they went after the Hillary supporters. Go figure?

 

I would welcome an honest dialogue with a new republican party that focuses on ideas instead of alliances and control.

This is not something that would only benefit republicans. It would benefit the whole country. The obama administration, the Reid Senate and the Pelosi Congress will need an effective and lucid check.

 

Ron Paul had passionate supporters. Fortunately there were few of them. He only had about 6% support among registered Republicans.

The United States is headed for a long and deep recession. Libertarianism is the message: I've got mine. Get yours or get lost.

That message doesn't resonate very loudly when millions of Americans are losing everything they've got. People are going to look to the government for help. Ron Paul is going to say, "You're on your own."

I think the Republican Party has a future as a despised minority party of selfish businessmen and racist rednecks, as decent people flee the party.

 

Ron Paul is a decent man. I believe he's wrong, but I dont think he would ever let his team resort to the tactics we saw coming from the McCain/Palin team.

 

But that doesn't take into consideration the number of independents, and disenchanted democrats that supported him. And if the youth vote helped elect Obama, then you have to consider that Paul had a strong following in that demographic.

 

With control of the Presidency and both houses of Congress Democrats have pushed aside Republicans, what are Republicans to do.

Palin seems headed for Dan Quale territory, someone without a base of support of their own. A non factor. The action will be in Washington.

Alaska always seemed to be America’s version of Venezuela; a one party state where natural resource driven wealth acted to cover-up the corruption of the ruling elite. Where voters are bought off with annual checks; where a troika of oil companies, the military and the Federal Bureau of Land Management are all more important than any elected representative. No it’s not a model for our future.

With a complaisant media cheering on Obama, declining readership in newspapers and declining standards in television news reporting there is plenty of work for opposition politicians to do. What Republicans will do in a large part rests on what Obama and the Congress with do.
Will democrats take the high road, working to better our economy or will they act vindictively with attacks like The Fairness Doctrine or launching legal jihad on defeated republicans with subpoenas and indictments?
Will Obama have success checking Congressional Brahmins and Washington burecrats?

The 1994 Contract with America and the shut down of the government were important gestures toward curbing financial excess. The idealism was lost in power when republicans cranked up government spending. They can get back to that posture as a minority inspiring confidence in financial markets that opposition politicians are fufiling thier role.

Democrats are seeking to regulate speech on the radio. Who will step forward to say that this is wrong?

 

I expect to see much more from Corporate Libertarians in the Republican party, as well as more religious types. Seems like there is an upsurge of the religious right flexes their muscles in the USA.

What with the gay marriage debate boiling over this election, the abortion issue the previous one, etc.

 

Republican hopes depend on Democrat failures. If in 2012 the situation in the Mid East and the economy have gotten worse, the Republicans will do well. If the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have ended in ways that are reasonably satisfactory, and if most Americans are better off than we are now, the Republicans will do poorly.

In life many things just happen. They cannot be controlled. The point is to recognize an opportunity, and to know how to exploit it. One must also recognize when hard work will not make a difference. This is true politically, and in one's personal life.



"The world is ruled by letting things take their course
It cannot be ruled by interfering."

- Lao Tsu

 

*Laughs*

The neocons didn't fall. Obama's administration is a neocon's dream come true, and admittedly so by people such as PNAC member and McCain foreign policy advisor, Max Boot, who, regarding Obama's cabinet appointments, stated:

“I have to admit that I am gobsmacked by these appointments, most of which could just as easily have come from a President McCain...”

What we can expect under Obama is exactly as I had predicted, which is another 4-8 years of George W. Bush, but dressed up in different rhetoric as to lead the sheeple to believe there is a difference.

Actually, I stand corrected. I think with the phase we are entering, things will be considerably worse under Obama than they were with Bush. Obama's cohorts have already made clear that Obama will be faced with an "international crisis" (no doubt a staged one) in his first weeks and months in office, which will, according to Obama himself, cause him to make "unpopular decisions."

Obama is a pathetic piece of excrement who will prey on the gullible and weak-minded, much like Bush has for the past 8 years.

If you think Obama is going to bring you change, then you're either incredibly uninformed, gullible, or just dumb.

Sure, the neocons may have fell, but only superficially as the agenda will carry on long after Bush and Co. are gone. (Except they're not really "leaving" because they will still have Bush's Secretary of Defense Gates.)

And some of you believed Obama was going to end the war and bring all the troops home? Ahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!