My View On Republicans

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Lizardman0, Apr 27, 2005.

  1. Lizardman0

    Lizardman0 Member

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    Well, what can I say about Republicans? At the top of the Republican chain there are rich white people. These people will do whatever they have to to assume power to meet their own ends. Is Bush one of these? No, he is to stupid. Bush is their doll. Bush is their doll because 1. Hes white, 2. He is a handsome character with a background that people can realate too. This includes his Religion and service and origin. These few Republicans in power currupt society with lies. They gain society with characters like Bush and alot of bullshit propoganda. It is wrong to lie right? Yes, but I could care less in some senarios. The Republicans lie but then they don't do anything. They don't have successful campagins other than the election campagin. They lie and then they are stupid leaders. I have a theory that Bush being given so much power backstabbed his party when he fired his whole cabinet and then choose new people. So, they don't really care and they are just going to ride it out.

    So, if you are a Republican. Then I think that you are either 1. A materialistic bastard 2. Don't think for yourself or 3. Your a good person. Some Republicans are good non-corrupt people who make good leaders. They aren't the ones in power at the moment though. I don't hate Republicans. I don't think all Republicans are fucked up and I am friends with some.
     
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  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's understandable, though, since he's only 15. But yeah, there is no real difference between the Dems and Reps, except for certain smoke screen issues and various rhetoric. Both parties are owned and controlled at the top by the same elites. The so-called difference between the parties is only to provide you with the impression that you actually have a choice. The sad reality is that you don't have a choice. Just look at the last election, where you had two blue-blooded elites with ties to the same secret society, that were nearly identical on almost every issue.
     
  4. Lizardman0

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    I don't really support the Democrats either. You only get to choose between two canidates that aren't that great.
     
  5. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    While I agree with most of what you're saying Matt, do you lassoo Howard Dean into the same blue-blooded elite with ties to a 'secret society' as Kerry and Bush?
     
  6. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    Are you serious? :eek:

    Ever hear of third party candidates? You don't have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
     
  7. HonkyTonk

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    I could say that democrats are A.)whiny pussies who are bleeding hearts, or B.) People with white guilt who feel so sorry for minorities, or C.) Minorities who believe that the Democrats actually care bout them.

    I am wrong on all these assumptions.
     
  8. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Well DHS, why do you think he lost the primaries and Kerry Won, even when he was one of the most disliked canidates at first.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  9. thumontico

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    The top of the Republican food chain are Rich people in general. Generalizing WHITE rich people is unnecessarily and dangerously stereotyping. Greed affects those of all skin pigments, however, white people just so happen to possess the majority of the wealth do to socio-cultural circumstances since the birth of the country. Just think of Armstrong Williams, a black man, bought off by the Bush administration to promote his agenda.

    The grand old party is certainly not the only party to propagandize and cheat to win an election. How about Kennedy in '60 and LBJ in '64 with those rediculous campaign commericials even worse than Bush's latest collection in this past election. Democrats are just a guilty as Republicans

    I agree with you that Bush is retarded, however, what he lacks in intelligence, knowledge of foreign relations, the democratic system and any sort of eloquence he makes up in the understanding of what makes the world go 'round, money... and damn good political advisors.

    The Bush campaign blatantly exploited religion in the last election. Aswell they exploited the black culture(where its not so cool to be gay), who normally vote democratic, many were swayed by the fear that big scary homosexuals that will take over the world by marrying eachother.

    Bush gets big fucking campaign donations from the oil industry and countless other commercial industries and after he wins the election, in return he say... invades an oil-rich country... or maybe opens up some of our national parks for drilling. Quid Pro Quo.

    Democrats are guilty here aswell, remember that bill that credit card companies lobbied for. The only benefit it had was for the CC companies, not us. But that went through the Senate, no problem. Quid Pro Quo. However, in my view Democrats are definately not to the extreme as Republicans, saving some time for integrity and serving the people as they were elected to do.

    Bush didn't fire his whole cabinet, the few that left, supposedly, resigned. He promotes within the family, as it were. That mustache guy, Condi Rice (who told Bush that Bin Laden was about to attack, at which point Bush decided to ignore the warning), is now our secretary of state. He wants to keep his cabinet close and he has done so quite successfully. I think Powell really hates Bush, I will be happy to read the book he writes after his term is over.

    Republicans aren't what they were a decade ago. Republicans call themselves Conservatives, this is complete and utter bullshit. Conservatives believe in small government, I point to Terri Shiavo, conseratives believe in fiscal conservatism, hence the name, I point to the $7 trillion debt. Bush is a neo conservative, his political positions exists on the whim of his constituents. That means money for big business and no scary gay people for the Christian right.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Couldn't have said it better myself. Today's so-called "conservative" Republicans are more along the lines of fascists than anything.

    I don't agree with your stance on Terry Schiavo, though, and I don't really think it's a "big-government" issue.
     
  11. dhs

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    that kinda validates what I'm saying. I really don't feel that Howard (or 99% of Vermont politicians for that matter) are part of that 'secret society' Its just too small of a state for candidates to mask any hidden agendas they might have. For the most part, most people who run for office in this state are concerned with what politicians should be concerned with - what is best for 'all'. They take the job because they are men of service - not individual greed.

    Our governor (Douglas) is a Republican and had I been registered in this state at the time of this past election, I would have voted for him over his democratic/progressive opponent (Clavelle). He's just a better man for the job as governor than Clavelle. I say this even though I side with Clavelle's stance more on most issues more than I do Douglas's.

    Now that being said, if the same two candidates were running for the Senate, I would've sided with Clavelle simply because I know that even though Douglas is a good man as governor of our state - on the national stage he would be intimadated by other Republicans into voting outside of his conscience where as Clavelle wouldn't. Douglas wouldn't do what Jeffords did and stand strong to his beliefs even if it went against the national Republican agenda.
     
  12. xthevalkyriex

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    You might want to check out "It's My Party, Too" by Christie Todd Whitman. I'm far from a Republican, but it was an interesting read about how moderate Republicans are becoming (and feeling) increasingly unwanted in the party.
     
  13. green_thumb

    green_thumb kill your T.V.

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    Pretty accurate if you ask me...
    :p
     
  14. thumontico

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    WHy?
     
  15. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    I've said it before and i'll say it again, the fight is really on the state government level. State governments are the highest it goes as far as legitimate government, and even that is starting to fail (mcgreevey for instance...) they are the only people you can get to fight for you in the house of representatives, and now even congressmen and senators are being coerced, blackmailed, and bribed to go along with what comes their way.

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  16. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    The thing is which way will the American political spectrum slide?

    To the left or the right?

    Toward a better political system or a worse one?
     
  17. HonkyTonk

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    Let's hope towards a fiscally, socially, conservative society. But that won't happen.
     
  18. Lizardman0

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    The South votes white.
     
  19. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    I heard her interviewed on the Diane Reemes Show. She was surprisingly intelligent for a Republican.
     
  20. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    What?
     
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