^ this is my favorite thing about 3xi. Even though we disagree with him, his truth is so infalliable that deep down we really do agree with him.
well, you will know the tree by the fruit it bears right? I came a little late to this thread, but I caught the rant about someone being a two-faced coward and a hypocrite....just seems kind of counter productive, especially for someone who just witnessed some grand enlightening revelation... So I can't say I really read the initial point, but from what I've seen so far, I dont think I'm missing much.
3xi is right though. in the same way that modern science is cold and capitalist - in some contexts, it does not matter whether you speak the truth or not, it matters instead how your words influence the world (or more specifically, other people in the world)
Why would you think that I'm only critical of others? Even when all you have to base your judgment on is my presence in this forum you have to realize that I'm not only critical of others. Just because most of the time you and I don't agree does not mean that everything I have said is in contrary to everyone else on this board. As a matter of fact there have been posts of yours that I have agreed with or commented on in a positive way (maybe your memory is just not good enough). I don't expect any of you to go back and read through all of my posts to find out that I do have many good things to say about other people's perspectives and beliefs. Even if you just look at this thread alone you will realize that I was not just talking about myself. There are many people in the world who believe that honesty is the best policy for every moment in life. If you think I was talking about you not being able to handle the truth I guess that's your own judgment upon yourself as I didn't use any names. I also did not mention that everything that I have to say is right, all I said is that a lot of times it doesn't matter what I have to say because some people cannot handle the truth. I did not say that everything I have to say is the truth and you should listen to everything I have to say because I am an all knowing God who has power to influence and change everyone's mind for the better. I will never knowingly say something that is untrue but I do make mistakes and it is possible to believe something is true when it is not. For the most part I do have valid points to make but if someone has something to say to the contrary I am all ears and more than willing to change my perspective when I'm proven wrong. Although I did not say anything to suggest I think I am perfect some of you would very much like other people to believe that that is what I mean. I'm guessing that the intelligence level with some people on this board is extremely low or the intelligence is unable to express itself because of some sort of inferiority complex or inability to accept that maybe we could learn from one another. It is kind of disappointing to have people act in such a way, twisting people's words to mean things they didn't say in order to feel better about themselves in the LSD forum because all it's doing is giving LSD a bad name. Don't get me wrong as there are many people who regularly visit this forum who are very intelligent and very accepting of other people and their perspectives and beliefs. I'm trying to figure out what kind of person would assume that I am only critical of other people and never have anything good to say in agreement. Have you even read my posts? I've been posting here for a year or something and you aren't that blind! I mean seriously, what kind of person would spend every waking moment of their day thinking about how they can criticize others? Maybe the fact that I was incarnated into a time where government and society has everyone so lost that no one can think for themselves anymore has something to do with how a lot of what I have to say is difficult to swallow. Of course I don't think like the majority of North American society but not only am I okay with that I feel very good about that. With the mass hysteria and confusion going on it is a wonder why anyone would like to be the norm. As there are not many people in the world alive today who are even capable of living an honest and loving life it is no surprise that those of us who are capable of living such a life don't seem to fit in. I will not sacrifice my integrity in order to fit in with the likes of some people and this is a good thing although some would have you think otherwise. There are a few who post here that I agree with in many respects and there are others who share only a few of my beliefs but for the most part the ones who are more vocal and persistent are the ones who would rather not be accepting of someone who is different or does not share their point of view. If it is wrong to criticize someone else then why are you guys taking the time to criticize me? The sad part about this is that my posts in this forum are very intelligent in the way they are presented so it is very obvious that some of you are not reading what I have to say with an open mind at all. How can you say that it is wrong to criticize someone when that is exactly what you are doing? We even have neodude bringing light to the fact that some of you don't even have to read the thread because you made up your mind about me along time ago! I'm not sure why some of you take the time to post here but I'm sure you're not doing it because you want people to think that LSD is bad for us. It is well-known in many circles that LSD can open a closed mind but some people will get the wrong idea when they read these threads and see a large number of people claiming to have used LSD that cannot communicate with an open mind. What kind of person would want to convince others that being honest is not an enlightened way of life? What kind of person would want to convince others that someone who thinks that honest criticism is a healthy part of any relationship is the kind of person who can never find anything good to say about anyone? Are you saying that either a person is always criticizing others or they are always complementing others as if there is no in between. It is just as important to recognize a person's achievements as it is to criticize a person's faults and doing one does not negate the other. I can criticize my wife for constantly knocking things over one hour after I tell her how much I love how gentle and warm she is when she cares about others and my criticism does not change what I love about her. Society would like you to think that popular belief is the truth and anything outside of popular belief is insane. A person can make a very solid and intelligent point that is contrary to popular belief and many will not listen or give it a chance because they are incapable of making up their own mind. Bill, you are more than intelligent enough to consider what I have to say with an open mind but you would rather side with the majority for some reason. You agree with me, then you don't agree with me and there is good reason to imagine that if relayer and others did not join the discussion in attempts to confuse the point that you would still be in agreement with me. As for your comment that I do not need justification for my beliefs, you might want to make note of the fact that I take the time to explain why I have such beliefs. Seeing that my posts are so much longer and more detailed than your posts, if anyone is failing to justify their beliefs it is definitely not me! I would like to thank all of you for contributing in this thread because you have inadvertently helped in clarifying the message!
GEEEZ 3x, calm down man. READ THIS... I also feel like I have a message to spread, on this forum and elsewhere. I have read your posts thuroghly, and it seems that it is your nature to argue. Perhaps your recent trip has shed some light on this part of your personality. I would urge you to consider this: you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I encourage you to offer your good counsel to folks, but if your advice is not taken, don't let yourself continue to impress upon them the wisdom they rejected. Your posts are very protracted, and I suspect that your message often gets lost when you assume an argument to begin with, therefore I would give this advice : be more consice. trying to edit down your paragraphs into a few sentances may give you yourself a better feel for the positive message you are trying to convey. STOP over-intellectualizing, and allow some disagreements to go unretorted. Being the "Jerk" 3x that we have all come to know and love is preventing some people from hearing your voice, so accept this advice, or not, but realize what I am saying to you is simply "Be Kind"
right on brotha. 3xi i've always just figured that there was a communication problem with you and others. whether it's something you're putting out there or not I can't say. all I know is that the main cause of any conflict is weak communication, not failure to agree on an absolute. a lot of time people don't even know wtf they're debating, which may be why you indicate that ppl do agree with you unwittingly......side note: I agree that honesty is the best policy in any situation, but I think it's honesty with oneself, not necessarily being totally honest with everyone, everyday. to assume such a lofty project would inevitably lead to being misunderstood, as you are often.
This guy is making a complete mockery of himself. Everything he dislikes about me he does himself except he goes one step further in the wrong direction. Relayer is the one who does not feel the need to justify his beliefs. I guess he feels like he is the King shit around here and does not need to explain himself. Apparently he thinks that it is wrong to criticize people or that it is wrong to speak your honest perspective. Then he goes on to do exactly that but in a tone that is disgusting and vile. Maybe this is just to further prove my point while he has others in the same thread who seem to have a problem with what I have to say about being honest but don't seem to have a problem with relayer attacking someone instead of offering an intelligent perspective to the contrary. When I take the time to constructively criticize someone or their perspective I make sure that I explain why I feel this way as I articulate my point of view as best I can. Relayer obviously feels that he does not need to explain why he disagrees when all he can do is spit in your face. What is really strange here is that Bill reads my posts and thinks that I am not taking the time to explain why I believe such things and then he reads relayer's posts and doesn't notice that he is the one that actually deserves that comment. When you agree with someone who is wrong just because they are your friend and you disagree with someone who is right just because you don't like them you should realize that you are holding a grudge and playing favorites. Someone who cannot realize the truth when they hear it because one of their friends does not like the person speaking it is only holding themselves back.
Calm down? Are you trying to suggest that someone who is willing to take the time to articulate their point of view is upset or frustrated? I'm actually very calm and quite enjoying this. I am exercising my mind as I am further understanding my own point of view while I help others understand as well. What made you think I need to calm down? When someone cares enough to take the time to express themselves in a long detailed manner you think they need to calm down. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't take the time to express myself here?
3x, I literally mean "be calm" I appreciated your long and detailed work, and it seems that over the course of your replies to the comments thereof, you have become more defensive, and there is no need. Perhaps my posting this reply to your reply to my reply to your statement will be responeded to in kind although it would be unnessecery... I suspect that you are going to consider it, but consider THIS: A conversation is not always a debate. therefore, I completely agree with you on all points...
Some things cannot be said in a few words and let me assure you that it wouldn't matter how I said what I said in this thread because people would object and attack me for my perspective regardless. Trust me, as I have tried many a times. Sometimes I take the time and elaborate other times I make it short and sweet. Some people are not willing to accept anything I have to say no matter how I say it. If you were willing to stop for one moment and consider that these people are not willing to hear what I have to say regardless and taking the time to elaborate further after hearing where they get confused should not only be accepted but respected. Are you trying to suggest that the reason why they didn't agree with me in the first place is because they knew that I was going to continue with my argument after they disagreed? Or are you trying to say that if I had just ignored what they had to say that they would've eventually come around and understood what I had to say and that when I took time to elaborate, that this only made it that much more likely for them not to understand my point? Do you think that when I took the time to argue my point further that I was actually able to have people who already agreed with me change their mind to now disagree with me? Are you saying that a complex subject would be easier to communicate to people who are not willing to understand the subject if I was to use less words? Well then maybe you could've come into the thread and put it in your own words and show us how using less words would somehow be able to convince these people! People are looking for a reason not to accept what I have to say or even give it a chance. I have on many occasions in the past expressed a similar point of view sometimes in far less words and the same people who do not understand my point today did not understand it when I used less words! I'm trying to imagine how anyone could think that someone who would take the time to help shed some light on what they feel is a very important subject is doing anything wrong. The fact that I have a lot to say does not suggest that what I have to say is invalid or should not be considered. You say I am wrong to continue debating but then why did you join the debate? Sometimes people need to hear things in different ways to better understand the message that is trying to be communicated. Sometimes the way that I communicate something at first is not in a way that everyone can understand so I come at it from a different angle and try to explain it in a different way so that others may better understand what I'm trying to say. I'm using Dragon speaking voice recognition and this actually takes a lot less time than typing would. The fact that I'm taking the time to help people understand something is actually admirable. If they don't want to read it they won't read it. You think I should be kind but like I said if you are an honest person you cannot please everyone. Sometimes what people need to hear is exactly what they don't want to hear and I am willing to be the person to say it. I understand that I should learn to express these things in the best way that I can as I want my message to be accepted but at the same time an honest person can only be so nice. Well there was a few very long sentences in that post and I hope that you can be open-minded enough to accept the way in which I choose to communicate sometimes.
I do not want you to think that I do not appreciate you taking the time to help me understand myself better and I'm sure that you make a very good point. It's just that saying calm down implies that you think I am angry when I'm not. I'm not at all happy with the fact that a few people in the lsd forum can't help but to twist and contort what I have to say into something that would suggest that I'm someone that no one should listen to. A few of these people have made it a top priority to attack and insult me whenever I post. I'm not quite sure how I am supposed to be happy about this but at the same time I do not want them to feel like I do not accept them for who they are. We can use the word debate and argument only because there are people who are disagreeing with each other in this thread. Not all arguments and debates are heated or filled with anger. I can offer up a good solid argument without getting upset or angry. I may not be happy about what is going on but I sure as hell am not angry. If anyone needs to calm down it is relayer. You know that someone is not doing well when they suggest that you should be beaten to death with a brick of cheese.
this is a hijacking......I dig a non-educational trip, but isn't this the very reason you didn't learn from lsd? the fact that you never looked at it as a learning/evolutionary aid? there are many threads in the cid forum dissimilar to this yet you haven't commented on those making you glad u don't see acid as educational. is it b/c they make u wish u did see it as educational or b/c u hardly visit this forum and happened to comment on this one? I may sound like an ass but i'm just curious
This thread is what happens when people take themselves too seriously. You all are just a portion of a blip within a blip of a part of a pixel on the screen of consciousness, and yet you take yourselves so seriously, talking about who is right and who is wrong and undeniable truth. The whole thing is a joke man.
3xi, it's really hard to read your posts when they are giant, meandering paragraphs. This isn't me criticizing your posting style, this is me telling you I can't fucking read your posts dude. And I would like to.
lol, you're indicating the same about yourself with this post. we all have separate lives, these are just a thing to do in the meantime. I only represent a small portion of myself in my posting, a portion that doesn't get as much association in my nondigital life. if posting here required as much gravity and effort as you say you detect in the posts, it'd prolly not be worth it to post. it's just for fun no one is taking it is as seriously as you seem to here.
you mean besides the huge long drawn out posts that 3xi is composing right, and your direct response to what I just said? I wanted to be polite, so I kinda went for the "you all" approach rather than just direcly saying "3xi", but I guess if it offends you so much, well the shoe fits guess I struck a nerve. [insert argument about how this post is just perpetuating us "taking it too seriously"] Look, just b/c I realize it's just a game, doesn't mean I dont have to play.
I wasn't offended. I was just using myself as an example. if I see a post I think needs responding to, I will. but it's never personal; how could it be when we hardly know each other?
Yo I stopped reading partly because Ive said what I wanted to say and because 3xi's font is too small to read quickly. But just to clear up my end, 3x - I wasnt really talking about how you react to me, Im expressing my opinion of how I see your interactions with other people in the board. And I think that you have overproportion (to the extent where it seems always) of negative stances in your statements to other people. Ive not got much of a problem with it, but I still have an opinion on the matter and I only feel like making it when I feel like my opinion provides a way of looking at the situation that isnt just another polarised assertion, because so often there are arguments occuring, and so often they occur because of the way you interact, and not as much what you say, perse which ties in with why frustration is bad - because it influences the way you interact with the person and prevents the content of your words being received appropriately
