Mushrooms releive OCD symptoms suffered by people (like me :))

I had been diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder when I was 13, and although I have alway's had a certain amount of control with my obsessions (mostly mathmatical numeric repetition and the occaisional paranoid thought) and have developed a decent level of comfortability to remain without any form of treatment which would include either therapy or medication, I normally like to check up on the latest ideas psychologist's come up with to assist patients battle's with the mental disease purely out of entertained interest, I guess because it is basically one of the few disorders that while consisting of different levels of severity and obvisouly different patters of repetition, I still find an almost exact similarity of shared perspectives with every single person who diagnosed positivley for it with whom I have spoken to openly regarding the thoughts and emotions brought upon us while coping with the obsessions and trying as hard as possible to remain normal and productive during our daily activities. Anyway, here is the link from Yahoo.com that I stumbled upon tonight, I found it interesting because I alway's felt that psilocybin in the proper dose would allow the mind to wander freely and break out of the confined restrictive fences that the mind wraps around itself when being forced to go againt it's own will in order to bring about peace of mind that doesn't ever exist in the first place. : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061221/ap_on_he_me/psilocybin_study_1

 

where do i sign up to be part of the "larger research study"! i have some slight ocd problems with messiness and cleaning. not enough to be a big problem, but its slightly annoying when i know something i am doing is dumb and useless but i have to do it still.....

 

Yep, peace of mind that never comes.

 

thts really cool. I think the best part about it is that they are continuing research with the drug. maybe some magic will happen and they will realise its NOT that bad for u when used moderately and for learning and expanding yourself... prolly not tho unfortunately

 

Yea, it's basically a dead end, an I highly doubt the experiments were even purley conducted in the name of OCD research lol. Im sure that was just a medical/professinal excuse to give people mushrooms and see what happens in a very general sense. I mean come on, these conductors of tests are supposed to have a pretty broad knowledge of the problems they are trying to cure, and at least a basic understading of the chemicals they are feeding people in order to experiment. Anyone with half a brain involved in the field of psychiarty would know that pcilosybin produces a state of euphoria, as with the majority of drugs, that makes a person comfortable with being under the influence of it forget the daily rituals and fears/obsessions, or at least produces a mood that relieves the stress and pains brought on by them. Also, they would note that the feeling wear's off after a few hours lol. Therefor, it is not even remotley possible for ANY drug to completley wash ones mental disorders away. And for them to think that a drug that induces a "high" could be used to treat OCD is beyond rediculous, in fact, it makes me hesitant to even consider anything doctors claim to understand about the mind as being even slightly close to a fact!

 

yeah, really old news. but it's definitely GOOD news, nonetheless. Dr. Moreno is one of the main dudes here in the U.S. there's other studies up in New England and even more in Europe--switzerland, i believe.

there are many case reports of OCD suffers achieving FULL symptom remission for the duration of the mushroom trip and lasting several more hours after the come down. some people have been able to have complete improvement lasting for years by simply taking sub-psychedelic doses of dried mushrooms biweekly.

psilocin, the active ingredient in mushrooms, is very, very similar to the naturally-occuring neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain. OCD is seen most often as a result of a deficient serotonin system (i.e. too little serotonin). interestingly, serotonin is an inhibitory transmitter; thus, it's not surprising that an underactive serotonin (5-HT) circuit would/could lead to behaviorally overactive symptoms (e.g. compulsions, obsessions, rumination, etc).

when you take psilocin, or any of the pharmaceuticals regularly prescribed in the treatment of OCD (i.e. SSRIs), you're increasing the brain's 5-HT transmission. as 5-HT goes up, compulsive/obsessive behavior goes down. unfortunately, SSRIs don't work for everyone and in those for whom it does provide a therapeutic effect, the symptom set is not usually reduced more than 50%. it's spectacular, then, to see 100% remission of OCD symptoms from other drugs like psilocin. i find it ironic that a drug already existing in nature appears to be far better for treating OCD than anything western medicine has produced in hundreds of years. now if only it [psilocin] was legal...

peace.

 

Yea, thats all fine and dandy, and dont forget the best treatment for depression is Morphine lol. Seriously, there are some things that cant be changed in a persons life time. Things like obsessions with math and repetition rituals that are so permanetly implanted into the brain can not be cured with ANY drugs. BTW, most people are uncomfortable with trying to rid themselves of their rituals, I know that for myself I find it harder to do than quitting smoking or any other habitual disease I participate in willingly.

 

i didn't say anything about treating depression. nor is the best treatment for MDD (major depressive disorder) morphine. where did you hear such a statement? i also didn't say that OCD could be cured with drugs. however, i did say that in many case reports, OCD symptoms can be 100% alleviated by taking psilocin. in those who take (legal) SSRIs, one can see up to about 50% symptom remission. this is precisely why magic mushrooms are being studied for the treatment of OCD.

as far as being uncomfortable, the majority of people with OCD would gladly take steps toward reducing their problematic symptoms. many sufferers go through several different drugs in hopes that one of them will mitigate their particular symptom set. in the numerous case reports of self-induced psilocin OCD treatment, the patients are amazed and delighted that they are able to temporarily reduce their symptoms.

OCD patients cannot just will their obsessions and compulsions away, no matter how hard they try. for the most part, they need pharmaceutical intervention. there is a fine distinction between treating something and curing it. OCD is a serotonergic disorder and certain drugs work well for treating it.

 

Mighty fine, but I regret to inform you that you are generalizng, and are therefor, wrong. Who says that OCD is a serotonergic disorder? And I dont mean who coined the phrase, because the doctors who blossom from this stem of research, also give magic mushrooms to patients and truly believe they are doing the right thing. And the bit about treating depressions with morphine was a joke, that is what I do on occaision (that means, it was my statement.) I dont really care to argue about authenticity because I loathe psychology, as could be understood from my previous post. I think the whole article was rediculous, although mildy entertaining, and that is all I wished to point out, differing opinions are more than welcome, but please, let's not turn this into a beef. Merry Christmas btw, if you celebrate it.

 

scientists who study the brains of OCD patients all agree that the disorder is fundamentally intertwined with the brain's serotonin function. merry christmas.

 

Hey, I'm the same! I was diagnosed when I was 14, and I have problems with symmetry, unwanted thoughts and the like. I've just started on weed, and I'm loving, if not purely for the high! I've read that shrooms have sometimes alleviated symptoms for months without any relapse, and I have a mate that knows a guy at his work who deals shrooms. So I'm gonna go get some, and participate in your study!