Hello all. I have recently been wanting to do mushrooms for a while now but havent been able to find them (I eventually will). I smoke alot of weed, drink and i've done Salvia (40x) twice(Crazy shit). But I really want to trip and escape from reality. But now I'm worried. I've been reading alot about them and it seemed safe until I crossed a forum about psychadelics and hppd. Some of these people have been suffering from visual phenominons and anxiety for 12 years. Some of these people talk about how their life is turned completely upside down from acid (or in more rare cases mushrooms). Now I still want to do mushrooms, but I dont want to be fucked for the rest of my life either. What would be a safe way to avoid hppd. Can you get hppd from a single use? I consider myself a happy, and mentally stable enough to do mushrooms. Thoughts?
I thought i've read somewhere that it was 1 percent of the people who ever done psychedelics suffer from hppd. So you can say its for 99 percent safe to use it i think I have done mushrooms for about 15 times, and it hasen't done me any harm ecsept for the Occasional flashback wich are quiet innocent and enjoyable and aren't as 'heavy' as the trip itself or as the accounts you read on hppd A friend of mine doesn't even have any flashbacks at all. So that differs from person to person. I would say: take the shrooms, enjoy them and don't worry. Or how does leary says it? Turn on, tune in, drop out.
More than 1% of trippers catch the dreaded HPPD, it's really easy to get and once you've caught it you're fucked to a life of permanent afterglow filled with axiety and tears from reality, you can catch them from mushrooms, I did it, and it sucks, made taking drugs incredibly different, made weed smoking incredibly different, I still toke the stuff cause it's my medecine but even one toke can fuck up my entire day, been able to supress thoughts of it and havent been touching the psycadelics for a while, except for home grown, which being the best grown I will consume and it has been detremental I can feel it fucking things up worse than before, back to last year again when I was having trouble reading the print in books. been really pissed off lately and I think it's related, maybe. been getting into fights with my brother, other day we got into a fist fight in our kitchen/lab twisted my ankle up trying to avoid crashing into my laminar flow hood, been generaly pretty mean as of late, getting paranoid of family friends neighbors for no sensible reason. I try to look at old friends turning into tweakers and make myself rationalize that being a hallucinogen burnout is better than being a methamphetamine addict. thought I had overcome my addictions from when I was younger, started eating vicodin when I was 14 and finaly got away from the pharmeceuticals when I was 17, tried to move in with friends in Humboldt county and try to set things straight in a different setting, the two friends I was going to live with both got busted at around the same time one being with weed the other being mushrooms, both being within reach of a school at the time, major fucked, took off and went downhill, started trying to go the CC up there but failed miserably for i never made it too class cause I was off trimming in mendo to keep myself constantly coked fried stoned drunk for a nice chunk of time, learned about the ways of the mushroom, started trippin with those big cubies that come off the pats down in the south when I was younger at like 15, love tripping, but it used to scare me a lil, after my time with pills I became eased with them and staarted selling acid in highschool through the rave circuit when I was surrounded with the ease of aquiring contacts for whatever the fuck I want and the discovery of my favorite life on this planet the wood eating psilocybes I went ape shit nuts and went off the deep end. Magic mushrooms aren't all that addictive so I was able tp stop eating them pretty easy... gotta quit smoking cigs and stop my random encounters with the white lady, fuck HPPD fuckit god damnit.
These stories are really making me not want to mess with lsd or shrooms. I'm beginning to think that its not worth it to even try shrooms once for the slight possibility of catching hppd. Although salvia is a hallucinagen and I'm not even slightly altered from it.
if your that worried about it you probably shouldnt bother taking them. to go on a psychedelic trip on anything you have to completely trust the fact that theres a time when the drug ends. also most of the hppd stuff is crap i think i suffer from the "trails" from hppd but thats just cause i smoke to much weed and i get paranoid and kinda tell myself im seeing them. your the only one in charge of your brain and i find if you just say nah fuck it im not letting that get to me, you just get on with your day and never notice anything at all. drugs change you forever and you ethir want that or you dont. PEACE!
salvia can get you hppd to. And as far as i'm concerned: If you can take salvia you also can take mushrooms. I have done salvia once and found it more confusing than shrooms. But in the end both haven't done me any harm. There's a clip on this forum of some one who is trippin on shrooms: http://www.hipforums.com/modules.php?name=Videos&file=viewlinkinfo&lid=956&gid=0 (Drugtest nr 6, 2nd one) The irony here is that the guy trippin in the clip above wanted to try salvia as well and when the moment was there he didn't do it because he got scared of some stories surrounding this hallucinagen. But had a good time on the shrooms as you can see in the clip.
Salvia is uncomparable to magical mushrooms, dont even go there. you get knarly hppd when you are tripping every other day, is funky... How long do your tails last? coming home from school they lasted 3 seconds of bright light followed by about a minute of fuzzzzyness.
Lol why are you so worried about HPPD? It's not even that bad, if you're only trying it once or twice. Doing it every week like I was doing for a little while gave me some kind of case of it. It's not even that bad either. It's just certain things remind me of my trip sometimes (Since I had a bad one, came up unexpectedly like 2-3 hours after taking the shit). You won't understand unless you take acid. It's not like you are seeing floating balls of moosh, everythings normal, it's just sometimes it seems like things pause in their tracks for a split second and then continue. Just weird, you'd have to try and know what acids about before you find out the parts of it that seem to stick around.
Hey, I thought I should throw down my two cents, since I "suffer" from HPPD. I took a large dose of mushrooms when I had a lot on my mind and was kinda depressed... bad mistake... It was a horrible trip I saw eye balls everywhere and was so confused... little did I know it was only the beginnging. A couple days after that trip I noticed that when I stare at the ground or the ceiling it looks like its all wavy and shit. But that's as far as it goes. I took shrooms a year later when I was a lot happier and my HPPD has gone down quite a bit, as well the anxiety that goes with it... So I guess my point is that shrooms are like a teacher they will punish you if you use them as just "something" to do... So I say take the plunge and do them ONLY if you want to expand your mind and learn something, dont take them if your bored... here's a link to my story I wrote out earlier... it explains all... http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237191
I want to do them to expannd my mind, but I don't want any of the effects to linger after the trip. The reason im worried is that I crossed this website www.hppdonline.com Now I think any rational human being would be a little worried about doing somthing like this when some of these people have suffered from hppd for 12 years and sometimes more. I just want to try mushrooms and I don't plan on doing them regularly. If I did them I would have a happy enviroment and I could easily stay positive to avoid a bad trip. But it seems kind of like i'm playing russian roulette with the rest of my life and that worries me
Well Freeze my HPPD has diminished quite a bit, I can hardly notice it now at all. Also I just read on the HPPD online website that shrooms dont even cause HPPD but it's our imagination... http://www.hppdonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=4435.0 which when I think about it, might be true! Kinda trippy... So I'm sure your going to be fine Freeze. I say take em...
wavy surfaces are hardly what I am talking about, but taking a couple trips for experimentation wont screw you up any, not unless you try somthing unwise. if you are a new tripper dont get all spooked out by HPPDonline, it's mostly a bunch of people that seriously burned out after overly excessive hallucinogen usage, if you have an ounce of common sense and stick with it you will be fine. Most serious HPPDers I have found made a lifestyle out of hallucinogens and ended up with with a rude awakening, it's usualy when you take a break longer than a week from tripping out and and you notice you aint quite back yet, not really trippin but fried on a perpetual afterglow, ya dont feel or see right, even sense of touch is a little off. Funny I'm a member of HPPDonline... saying mushrooms cant cause HPPD is complete and utter bullshit.
dont worry about anythig..thats the most important, i used ot have the same thoughts, but if shrooms were that terrible and people have such bad trips from them, and they have such terrible consequences then how could the psychedelic era in the 60s have happened...hey if they thought it was great and now people still think its great, its GREAT! trust me! shrooms isnt ike acid, its not as intece, youll be fine, just be positive....
