I meant to post this a while ago but it slipped my mind. Anyway, the last time I was doing mushrooms with some friends one of them came up with an interesting theory. He said that everything on this planet is just trying to be the most awesome thing it possibly can be. Water chose to be water which is a good choice since water is essential but it's boring because water is always just water. We decided that the best thing you could choose would be mushrooms because of how awesome they are. Mushrooms are so awesome that they make everything else way cooler than it normally is. I don't know if that made any sense but I just thought I'd share.
Totally awesome dood. I like it. However, If there is one thing I learned about being in the army, its that EVERYTHING can be as awesome as shrooms. If you use them once a month for a year you will think they are very drab too. If I starve you of water, when u get it you will think its WAY better than mushrooms. Which leads me to my next conundrum... If always chasing what makes you happy only leads to you becoming use to it, how do you stay happy???
By seeing that nothing you ever chase will make you happy, and stopping the chase. This is the basis of Buddhism.
Then you will be unhappy Unless somehow you teach yourself that you will never be happy chasing the rest of your life. At least the chase brings temporary enjoyment though, right?
actually, the chase is what leads to unhappiness though you may not realize it. not accepting things as fine the way they are and seeking better will only lead to unhappiness in the long run. you may find something that may allude you into thinking your happy, but take it away and you are only unhappier than you were beforehand, because now you want to feel better, like you once did. Zoloft, for example. accept the imperfections and release your 'self' from it all.
But it is because this enjoyment is temporary that you suffer, for the enjoyment always ENDS, as you pointed out. So what you have to do Cod, is take a step back, zoom back out, and look at the bigger picture. If you are constantly like a rat in a wheel, running and running and stressing and suffering to catch something that you can never catch, what is the way out of this cycle of pain? To stop chasing what you can't catch. When you realize this in your BONES, you will know true happiness. For you don't need anything that you can't catch; it's just a mirage you've fooled yourself, and others have fooled you into, believing you need to be happy. You say we always chase new things once we are bored or done or give up on what we thought would make us happy . . . so the happiness you seek seems to always stem from different things, right? Absolutely not. If different things seem to always be the "ticket" to happiness, then the happiness you seek is actually coming from inside you. You are projecting your future happiness onto something, and when you find it, you are happy for a while, and if you don't, you are sad for a while. But the happiness has been and always will be from within you. It needs not an object to attach to to become real and attainable. It requires you to stop projecting it onto something outside yourself, and to understand that the root of absolute joy, the crystal lotus of blinding nirvana, is right there where it's always been, inside of you, next to everything else. Read some buddhist philosophy, I think you'll find it very liberating
Hahahah. i read that and actually lold. i feel like if i were tripping that would make sooo much sense and seem like the smartest thing ever.... but im not. im compltely sober so i was just like, "damn. i wish i were tripping. and that theory seems pretty stupid"
i think this is true but not because things will it themselves but because the divine energy wills it to be so. nothing can make us happy except becoming self aware of the divine presence in us and in everything else. If we give objects or people or even ourselves identities this causes suffering. We have to be present in between the gaps, we have to be without thought yet at peak consciousness to realize that everything is of the same nature that it in essence is perfect.--sorry that was to the codmouse/mr.writer discussion but back to the OP...it's not the mushrooms that make things perfect, that is the illusion. it is the mushrooms that give you a glimpse to the truth that everything is as it should be and nothing could be better about it (with the exception of the human unconsciousness that needs to be changed)...but this is how it always is, every day every moment...mushrooms, psychedelics, MDMA, and other every day experiences can give us glimpses as well...in order for it to be true all the time we have to turn inward and awaken
At the risk of sounding like everyone else here; only you can make yourself happy. No outside source can control your emotions, in the end you have to make yourself happy. So to use the example in this thread, yeah you can make yourself happy by finding and eating psychedelic mushrooms, but it is only temporary happiness (is there an echo in here lol). And since only the individual can control one's emotions, one may soon find that since the power lies within, who the hell needs an outside influence to be happy; it can be produced spontaneously. All that being said, I am nowhere near the level of only looking within myself to find true happiness, although I am actively trying to get there.
Although a lot of that started to sound cliche, most of it was a beautiful truth. I actually have read a bit about buddism. I have the understanding of what you are saying too. Why is it then that we try to get anything? Why do you use psychs writer et. al.?
I still chase things even though I know they are just attachments. What else are you going to do? Be a happy buddha all the time? I still want to get my dick wet and my mind warped. And I like ice cream. And music. Sometimes, these things will dissapoint me and cause me pain. I know this going into them. I'm not ready to drop attachments. I'm too attached to the ephemeral joy, I guess I haven't been hurt deep enough yet by this world, though sometimes I feel I have. I have recently realized that a long phase of non-attachment I've gone through after my acid trip has actually been detrimental to my growth as a human being in this world. I'm too young to be a sage
Dissapointment from ice cream please say it aint so! Pain I can understand. Ice cream headaches are a bitch.
i think too many buddhists mistake the emptiness of a numbed existance as a worthy endeaver... this isnt non-attachment. nothing wrong with enjoying ice cream, but there is somthing wrong with not finding enjoyment in it. i think the point is to accept and be okay with suffering, not build up a clever defence against it. you dont need to be attached to suffering or ice cream to fully expririence them. its rather silly to attach yourself (as if things werent already changing), but equally as silly to avoid the expirience. theres no such thing as stability or consistancy when it comes to the human expirience. not even in monestaries. (edit to add: im not talking to anyone, just talking. my words are directed only at an idea)
