Hi all, im new to this forum and joined specifically cause of this question i have.....i recently got a hold of 16 pills of morphine 30mg. Purplish color round pill with M in a box on one side and 30 on other. I use heroin but i dont know how to use those pills, id rather not shoot them and i think they are extended release, im pretty sure they are, which means that if i swallow them i wont get high! So where does that leave me? You probably need at least 60mgs and over to get high off mophine, do if i snort 2 or 3 pills thats too much powder to snort? I dont know what the fk to do with them pills whats the best way of using them for a strong buzz? Anyone??? Thanks,
Well, if you have a good tolerance to Heroin, they probably won't do shit, especially if you were banging it. But if you got 16 pills, I would take 3 [90mgs] and chew the shit out of them because I am not sure how to snort them if you can. But yeah, if you have a decent tolerance, 90mgs+ I would recommend.
KiLo needs to be here, isn't he like the opiate guru? Sure seems like it to me... as for the OP I have no clue The Mushroom Man
Those pills have wrappers on them becuase they're extended release. So wipe the wrapper off, crush it up, then snort it or parachute it, or both. If your tolerance is huge then I would do 4 or 5 for a strong buzz.
You can scrape the coating off like Guitar says and snort them. However I dont believe that entirely rids the pills of the time release, I believe they have something within the pill itself that causes this. I used to use the 60mg generic MS Contins daily for a long time, and even with daily use a 60 taken orally still had me ok. Not high but, yea, that's addiction for you. 240mg's was what I would take to actually get high, snorting 60mg's and eating the rest. God bless +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Contin : ...the time-release mechanism is a wax inside of the pill (not the colored coating on the outside) that, when heated, expands and encases the morphine sulfate. The danger presented to drug users who prefer intravenous/intramuscular injection is the wax.
Yea they definitly don't crush up into fine powder, there a little bumpy and clumpy like the football oxys they use to make.
You can lick the purple coating off of the pill, put a few in the spoon and run the pills. It is pretty hard to set up a shot but after you do it a few times it gets easier. I used to get a pretty good rush off of the 100 mg extended release ones.
Rubbing off the outer coating will do nothing but waste morphine the time release mechanism is actually hydroxypropyl methylcellulose visit-http://www.pharmaceuticals.mallinckrodt.com/Products/Product.asp?UT=0&BusinessUnitID=1&ProductID=5440 and click package insert this is basically wax that surrounds the morph and takes a while to brake down heating it will cause it to expand and fully envelop it making it less digestible i guess you could say snorting works just take it slow to see how it affects you(takes awhile to kick in...a long while) sorry about the horrible post had little time to write and i just registered...
The wax is so small you can't even tell that it is there. When looking at one crushed it looks like any other pill with some purple in it. Hypromellose, short for hydroxypropyl methylcellulose (HPMC), is a semisynthetic, inert, viscoelastic polymer used as an ophthalmic lubricant, as well as an excipient and controlled-delivery component in oral medicaments, found in a variety of commercial products[1][2]. Its Codex Alimentarius code is E464. The word excipient refers to the time release. So its not really the wax "containing" the morph but merely housing it for future absorption. And I once heard that the purple coating is responsible for releasing a relatively small amount of morph to get things started(reach peak plasma levels) and then once the wax starts breaking down more morph is released sustaining the peak plasma level. Crushing this pill and mixing it with 190 degree water to expand the wax and then adding 42 degree water to dissolve the wax is the only way I know how to get rid of it. (1/3 warm water 2/3 cold water) Hopefully that wasn't too incoherent and if there are any other questions I would be glad to help.
Lol not really, Im just an apprentice, and not even of using, but just knowing about them. The opiate gurus are Shocbomb, Verisimilitude, and Oxyrisin.
So next time I get these pills, your suggesting to crush up the pill and not take off the purple shit. I use to do that with the teva oxycontins ( the football shaped , crappy ocs) and it made it go up the nose better and not gel up as much.
Correct, thats what I did. I've only done it once but i'll prolly do it again, it did take a while to kick in though which prompted me to take 20mg of hydro to help it along but I found out 30min later that I didn't need too...
I used to get those all the time. I started out snorting, but got sick of the drip. Parachuting them is the way to go IMO. And a question to the time release experts. Does powdering the pill counteract the time release? I just sort of assumed more surface area equaled quicker absorption. But when you make assumptions...
I have had mixed results with parachuting and snorting, it is a very weird excipient(the wax) please do the research as it will yield more answers.
Oh, well I'm very interested in any thing pill related, if you couldn't tell, and tend to go over board on my replys. Your surface area idea is correct but I still need to "experiment" more on this awful wax in these pills. I recently bought a pill crusher, the kind for people who can't swallow pills, and have gotten a pretty consitant powder from it so I will be trying different things in the near future. Basically ask around and/or what till I'm done.