Microscope-Telescope?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Cornfield, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. Cornfield

    Cornfield Member

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    Any of you veterans ever played with a microscope or telescope during a trip? I am fascinated by both and am thinking about spending a little cash to get into both hobbies. Need something to do this winter while im layed off from work heh.

    Just throwing it out there. I think itd be pretty damn neat!

    My mind goes 10,000 miles an hour when im sober and when i trip its just insane. Im confident these could spark one hell of mindfuck
     
  2. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    No I haven't.... but on the subject of microscopes and LSD

    has anyone noticed that you can actually zoom into matter and see the atoms... zoom in even further and further and further to see the smaller and smaller subatomic, subquantum, whatever, particles. And it's a grid at the bottom of it... like what allyson grey shows in all her art
     
  3. Cornfield

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    suprised at the lack of replies to this i thought it was a good idea anyway
     
  4. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    it is a good idea but i have neither...
    i still stargaze anyways :D
     
  5. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    It's a shame that few people seem to understand the grid in my short stories. Oh well! The rest is transcendental. Haha, the rest...
    God Bless +
     
  6. StonerBill

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    dunno what the hell rygoody was talking about, but as for the telescope and microscope thing, i say hell yeah. what could people possibly say other than 'that sounds cool' or 'that sounds lame' or 'whatever'?
    microscope is cool and so it telescope.. but something worthwhile is hundreds of dollars. there might be other things that you would enjoy more for hundreds of dollars, but if not, then it is something that would enrich your life, definately, if you actually used it. but im sure a lot of people get them and get over it pretty quick.

    if you get a telescope you can look into windows far away. but if you get a microscope you can see some of the most amazing things right in front of you. its more delicate and fiddly. but a telescope takes you far away. you can see the details on the moon.
     
  7. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    It was pretty straight forward. He was sharing how he has has his 'vision' enhance in order to perceive the building blocks of nature without a microscope.
    Sure, it sounds insane. But how then did Hindu's, thousands of years ago, understand that we are composed of atoms? And then not only that, go onto explain many, many things which science is continually confirming as solid reality?
    Maybe they just guessed correctly on nearly everything. Hey it could happen!
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  8. StonerBill

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    Ok so.. Dont get a microscope, just look closer?

    That doesnt cut it for me. Western cultures also postulated atoms before they could possibly know through science. They did not see the atoms. I have faith that our sense of sight interacts with the world through photon-receptor collision, and also our imagination. Following this, we can never 'see' the real atoms of the world with our eyes. But our imagination can easily cut a grain of sand into smaller grains, and thus it is intuitive that the world is made of 'atoms', that is, to a person who has broken many solid things down and found the result is a collection of tiny particles, always.
     
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    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Because he's not telling you to look with your eyes, he's telling you to look with your intuitive perception, something that needs to be cultivated and disciplined.
    Yes Im aware that the West also postulated atoms and Im aware of where the name come from. But the ancient rishi's of India also stated that the Universe is composed of energy, the deva's Ganesha, Murugan, and Shiva represent Gravitational, Electromagnetic and Atomic force respectivley. They also represented the expansion and contraction of the Universe as the day and night cycles of Brahma, in terms of the cosmic egg. They postulated the idea of baby universes, the forces of energy as love since it is only limited consciousness which works against itself without producing positive results unlike the atomic realm. They knew of astral planes and causal planes. They have blueprints for the prana cirulatory system, prana being the energy of sustenance flowing directly from the causal thought realm down into the gross material. And there is much more that has been confirmed through science and much more that has yet to be grasped at all.
    The difference is that science goes through trial and error in order to understand what the rishi's claim is already within us. They have known for thousands of years through introspection alone and built a culture rooted in the understanding of these matters, and we are just catching up. Very slowly, I might add. But both are in God's hands, so both are beautiful and will result, I believe, in complete communion.
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  10. StonerBill

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    imo,
    they are in our hands, and there are other explainations for the similarity between interpretations of ancient religious teaching and modern scientific descovery.
     
  11. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Would you mind sharing some of the explanations Bill?
    God Bless +
     
  12. MovedOn

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    You have to take into account the fact that when you dig deep enough into matter, your eyeballs, your retina, is made of the same exact the thing the wall and world around you is.

    Seeing the atoms in matter around you is simply seeing the atoms, particles in your eyeballs. It's percieving the extremely microscopic, sub-atomic, sub-quantum components that are constructing your visual eyesight. Your seeing these right now, just, theres billions and billions of them overlaying and stacking to make it look like this, instead of just an array of dots.

    Which this opens the thought that your only seeing the sub-components of your eyes, your retina, not that of matter around you. But if you take it that, it starts from one point, one particle, this one particle then is holographically duplicated in an array to form the three dimensional space that the various quarks and atoms coagulate off of in order to appear like physical reality. Then this means that at a deep enough level, when your seeing these sub-components of your retina, you are seeing the sub-components of the wall in front of you, the world around you, because it's literally the same exact thing. At a deep enough level the geometric structure in your eye is the same geometric structure of the wall your eye is seeing.


    However... I have never tried zooming into stars... I should
     
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