Meth is a bad drug

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  1. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    And I hate the fact that because I smoke pot and trip sometimes, society lumps me in with that shit.

    Everything about meth is just bad. First off, it's a dirty drug that is just fucking horrible for you physically. And if you have the balls to try to deny that then you have never seen a real down and dirty meth head. Even if you aren't on that shit enough for it to have raped your face to death, you still look like a tweeker. And you're never as subtle as you think you are.

    Secondly, think about the people who make and move it. Everything from superlabs in mexico worked by slave laborers and run by depraved and merciless cartels that have yearly murder rates in the hundreds, or thousands.

    And a step down, another big mover of meth are biker gangs. The gang rapeing, fire bombing, gun selling Outlaws and Hells Angels. Yeah, these are the people who need more money. Nothing more fluffy than a spun out racist biker.

    Oh, and the trailer trash making the most filthy grundgy meth that shoots up as sweet as battery acid. Have you ever actually BEEN IN a place where this shit was being made? I'm not talking about watching a documentary, have you ever actually walked into one of these peoples house? Seen coffee filters stained with chemicals that could seriously hurt you just laying around on the floor. Sometimes there might be a child crawling around through the filth and phosphorus. Chemicals stored in the fridge. Fumes from a toolshed methlab (some people even cook it on the stove) wafting in the breeze.

    Not to mention the state a meth fiend can work himself into.


    Disclaimer: I'm not saying every person who uses meth is a bad person. My old best friend was on that nasty shit for a while. Clean and in collage now.

    But my problem with meth is not with every user (aside from the low down human scum that spreads it around and the worst of the addicts), my problem is that there is nothing good to it. If you buy it you are making a choice to support horrible things. And that is the reality of the situation, justify it however you will... there is no good that comes from meth.

    I hate the police. I really do. But I would actually volunteer my time to get that shit off my streets. I agree with them on that. And it takes a fucking lot for me to agree with the police about anything.

    Anyway, this is just my opinion, and if you don't like it all you have to do is realize that my opinions aren't worth shit. That both me and everything I have to say is meaningless to you. And then we're all good.
     
  2. SweetBlasphemy

    SweetBlasphemy Senior Member

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    Stop being a pussy and shoot that shit.
     
  3. TipsyGypsy

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    Meth is a horrible drug. I have done a bit, but not for a while. I have had friends who have been addicted to it, and watching what it did to then physically was frightening. Nothing is that good, to be worth it.
     
  4. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    The other list of things I consider bad drugs are PCP(tried it) and Herion(never did, I'll smoke opium one day though)

    PCP is bad because it can but you in a very dangerious state of mind, but I really don't have any loathing for it. It's just something that I think I should continue to avoid.

    And herion, I don't know shit about heroin. but I've had one friend die from it and another one who threw away a beautiful person who the world will never know again for a junkie. So I have a little beef with it, but eh.


    Meth though, everything I've seen and heard just turns my stomach.
     
  5. guerillabedlam

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    I only tried it once, I have seen it damage family members personally so I know it's got a very dark side but based on that one use I can't say I found anything about it that much dirtier about than like Ecstasy or cocaine. It did cause some pretty bad teeth grinding and I can see it's addictive potential but I think as a stimulant it's pretty decent.
     
  6. TipsyGypsy

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    Never done PCP, but heroin is an interesting one, but yeah it can change you.
     
  7. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    I've never had a desire to try it. Other drugs like cocaine strain dopamine receptors in the brain, but Meth just destroys them. I'll just stick with my 4 cups of coffee.:cool:
     
  8. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Meth does what it does to people physically because it's extremely addictive, any drug in extremely constant doses can physically fuck you up.

    Don't feed into stereotypes too, yea Mexican gangs are making meth and moving it, the marijuana trade from Mexico into the United States is also worth about $6-7 billion and the cartels fight like hell over that too. We're all supporting terrorism.:rolleyes:
     
  9. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Yeah meth is fuckin horrible. It's worse than crack. lol I've seen people lose everything they've had because of meth. ALL of my friends used to be addicted to meth. I'm lucky I never wanted to try it, because I had lots of opportunities to use it, if I'd wanted to. My personality isn't suited for using readily available addictive drugs. lol Bad things would happen:tongue:
     
  10. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    That's the thing though. If they would fucking legalize pot and stop telling people like me and a good 35% of america that we are criminals, we could have less of a rift between us and the police.

    If The Man would get his fucking priorities strait we could live in the world where the pothead saying "Fuck the police" will instead be going to the station for some community service and work with the men hired to protect and serve to make our neighborhoods a safer place.

    I suppose I'm too much of a dreamer. I like to imagine a world that makes some sense.
     
  11. wetsocks

    wetsocks there's no one driving

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    a few months ago i was living in the meth capital of canada. i used to play spot the tweakers lol

    i've never had any desire to try it
     
  12. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    If they would just legalize cocaine/crack though the cartels would lose their most lucrative source of income and a lot of people would no longer be part of the most violent sub genre of America, crime would plummet everywhere. In fact legalizing weed would do the least probably out of any drug except psychedelics except for raising revenue.

    Besides, the police shouldn't be helped. When they arrest people for weed they're not infringing on people's rights, they're just enforcing the legislated law. Almost no pothead ever actually has their rights violated. The police should be hated for the constant abuses of power and rights in other cases that happen.
     
  13. TipsyGypsy

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    getting drugs like meth off the streets isn't about helping the police, but helping the public and those who are stuck on it and ruining their lives.
     
  14. joef

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    its wierd that you just made a topic about that,because i was just reading about it on erowid.

    Anyways, 2 weeks ago I went to a rave, and one of my buddies didnt do mdma with the rest of us, but he did speed that he bought from a guy he meet a school.

    He had alot of fun and stuff but he slept 2 days later and only for about 3 hours only and the got up again.

    So I looked it up and i found out that speed is just another name for meth. I kept reading these faqs and it is actually easy to make and i have ephedrine and whatever it needs, but i dont like using stimulants more than once every 4 weeks and if i do its only mdxx.

    Ive never tried it but my point is Meth or speed or whatever are ok to use few times if you are curious but often use is what it makes any substance dangerous.
     
  15. PhishheadDeadhead

    PhishheadDeadhead Senior Member

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    your post was pretty defensive, i'm just saying i doubt many people on these forums is going to be a meth advocate lol. but i too have seen a few people close to me go down that hill...not that you can't get back up but most people never do you know?

    i think someeone told me about 5-6% of people who try to quit via rehab actually stay sober?
     
  16. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    This is nothing more then same mentality behind the public support for the drug war as a whole where people laughably think you can get something off the streets that anyone who has taken organic chemistry in college can make easily and safely in their bathroom. It's impossible to get drugs off the street, in fact statistically it's been shown generally between 1985-2005 drugs of all nature have become not only more available but cheaper in most parts of the US.


    Also speed is only another name for meth depending on where you live. Speed here would only refer to regular amphetamine.
     
  17. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    This is the same for AA and most things, fact is most addicts will often relapse once or twice, but relapse doesn't mean raging drug addiction again, most places count sobriety as literal sobriety, never again touching the drug of problem, do it once, it's a relapse.
     
  18. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    But that's what the police are *supposed* to be about. That's my point. They're so busy making criminals out of normal people they cause us to feel so much contempt for them that we have no empathy for what their job is. If some magic legislation were to be passed that somehow forced the police to only deal with real criminals that were hurting their communities and the people around them, I would be happy.

    I'm sick of being made to feel like a criminal. I'm sick of the misdirected power and wonton idiocy of the people who are supposed to be protecting me. Like.. if you can't protect me at least leave me the fuck alone.

    I was on probation before I ever committed a real crime. But believe me, I caught up fast once it was decided I was a criminal.

    I am so far off topic. I don't like meth. I don't like police fucking with me when they should be dealing with the real problems.

    And legalizing it, I really don't think would help. 1, it's impossible. meth will never be legal even though pot may... and 2, meth does bad things to people by its self. Legalizing it wont stop that.
     
  19. TipsyGypsy

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    Let's just hope you don't need help one day :rolleyes:
     
  20. TipsyGypsy

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    I don't have any faith left in the police. They didn't help me when I needed it so I don't bother with them any more. I have had much better help and support from homeless charities, and they actually do more in trying to get people clean and make things safer.
     

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