message to the moral? majority

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 7river, Nov 12, 2004.

  1. 7river

    7river on a distinguished path

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    do i agree with this? maybe parts, more importantly is to know the parameters of our groupconsciousness no? i find it disturbing that this exists and that i relate to parts of it.
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    [​IMG][​IMG]Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

    And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

    Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

    No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.

    Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

    All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

    The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

    Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.

    But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, assholes.

    Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

    And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off.


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  2. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    i realize there's always been tension between the north and the south, but i think that even more depressing than our vanishing rights is seeing the country so polarized and divided. i think it's that very division, and the fear that fuels it that is allowing the brutal rape of Lady Liberty by Uncle Sam: if you're afraid of every shadow and busy hating your neighbor, you're not going to notice or care about the political vampires that are sucking the life out of our civil liberties.
     
  3. Megara

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    i guess whoever wrote this didnt know where James Madison(writer of the constitution).. Thomas jefferson(Writer of the declaration of independence) and George washington were from..
     
  4. Kandahar

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    And where were the other 99% of revolutionaries from? Boston, New York, and Philadelphia.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    That was stereotypical leftist, group-think diatribe. I'm sorry I even took the time to read that half-assed rant. My guess is that it was written by a disillusioned and pissed-off 9th grader.

    Obviously, whoever wrote that thinks they're Abbie Hoffman. Their impression sucks.

    Again, shit like this does nothing more than push people apart, and that's not what the country needs right now.

    You can fuck the south all you want, but I doubt they're going away.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Absolutely.
     
  7. northernlehigh97

    northernlehigh97 Senior Member

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    Fights, fights, fights...how can any of us (people in general) fight over anything. It was the greedy Americans who stole the the land we live on from the American Indians, wasn't it???
     
  8. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Well said.
     
  9. 7river

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    i think kitty has a good point, hence it is important to look at whats going on in mainstream circles and how we are distracted.

    who wrote this? maybe a republican, maybe a kid, maybe a liberal doctor. more important to me is how/why it found its way into my mailbox forwarded by a progressive homeschool mom.

    good replies, i think i'll have more to comment on this later.
     
  10. Megara

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    LOL, so lets leave out the big 3? Arguably the 2 most brilliant ment of the whole bunch!?

    Other than benny franklin, those would be the 3 most important people, IMO.

    when has this country not been divided for any long period of time?
     
  11. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    megara and kandahar: it is completely irrelevant who was born where, and quite frankly no one gives a fat damn anyway. you sound like a couple of schoolchildren squabbling on the playground over whose dad is cooler. :rolleyes:

    i think that illustrates the childisheness of the whole thing though. however, just because this kind of behavior is childish, doesn't mean it should be shrugged off as insignificant or harmless. there is a deep divide in this country. in the end, it can only hurt us all. democrat, republican, libertarian, green, independent...we're all americans. for one crystal clear moment of overwhelming grief following 9/11, we seemed to remember that. have we forgotten so quickly?

    my second husband is a new yorker, born and raised. one of his best friends from college died horribly when the towers fell. racially, suresh is mixed, puerto rican and kashmiri indian. he has dark skin and long hair and a beard, and he is often mistaken for middle eastern (even though neither new york, nor puerto rico, nor kashmir are in the middle east.) nonetheless, total strangers have since felt compelled to blame the tragedy somehow upon him. he has been shouted at, followed home from work by scary people with a spotlight in a slow-moving car (frightening: if you can aim a light at someone, you can also aim a gun), insulted to his face in friends' homes, told to "go back to his own country" and harrassed and called "suspicious" and "unamerican" for stopping to take care of his baby daughter in penn station during orange alert, and for not wearing a red, white and blue ribbon when the war started.

    people are grieving, angry, frightened and confused, and want someone to blame it on, because pointing a finger at someone, anything, at least feels like doing something, and gives us something concrete to channel those emotions at.

    now, how is this rant that 7river found in his mailbox any different from blaming 9/11 on "ragheads"? it takes the grief and confusion and anger people are feeling about everything - the loss of our civil liberties, the lies about the war, the deaths of our soldiers and of iraqi civilians, another 4 years of bush - and then it denies that grief - avoids it as deftly as people on the right denied it by focusing on "moral issues" like gay marriage - it avoids it by getting whipped into a frenzy over completely irrelevant non-issues like the birthplace of founding fathers and the ever popular Complaining About Taxes. it denies the grief and rage we feel over the real issues that hurt us all - special interest corporate favoritism, the destruction of the environment, questions about voter suppression, lies about WMDs - and ineffectually directs it at a pointless, false issue: the age-old north/south split. let's hate the south, let'srun off to canada. exactly what good does this do anyone? does this make us stronger as a nation, as a people? does this right the wrongs? does this bring us justice, integrity, or peace? fuck no. and if we on the left - especially those of us who claim to want peace - think that we are above such small-minded pettiness simply because we're "smarter", well then maybe we really are the self-righteous elitist snobs the right is accusing us of being.

    ron: i think mostly what this shows is how lost, confused and unfocused we have become. to be honest, from what little i know of you, i was actually a bit shocked and surprised to see you post something like this, moreso to hear you say you may agree with parts of it. but i'm glad you did, because it gets the beastly lurker in the dark out into the light where we can see it, accept it, examine it, and hopefully, begin the process of transforming it.
     
  12. Megara

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    Agreed, which is what i think the real sad thing about the iraqi war, that it removed that common bond that we once had.

    I DO find that rant childish. It is wrong for any group fo states to claim the heritage of this country. No one state has a monopoly on any of it. No matter whether franklin, washington, madison and jefferson were born in the north or the south they were still AMERICANS. Someone from new mexico has as much claim to that heritage as someone from connecticut, new york, pennsylvania or virginia.
     
  13. Maggie Sugar

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    I don't think the South is going anywhere. Maybe there should be a Constitutional Amendment to ban Nascar racing, cousin marrying and possum eating. I don't know.
     
  14. Megara

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    er...cousin marrying?

    i hope that post was meant in jest.
     
  15. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    wow. all the hate for all the southerners. ya'll suck. let's consider the behaviors and moralities of those founding fathers who's monuments are in your back yard. you think they'd be pro abortion and pro gay marriage? i don't fucking this so. i am for for some situations for abortion, and totally for gay marriage...and I'M A FUCKING SOUTHERNER, SO GET OVER YOUSELVES YOU POUTY ASS BABIES. i'm not a bible thumpin, counsin marrying, inbred anything. though i hear possum can be pretty good.
     
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    7rivers, I think that was someone letting off steam while having some fun trying to bait billy-bubba. They'd also have to be steamed at Ohio, Nebraska, Nevada, Alaska, et.al., and those states aren't Southern. I got a fairly good chuckle out of it.

    "Ya gotta keep 'em sep-a-ra-ted". So true, kitty, so true. You aren't going to notice the thief inside your house making off with the TV and VCR if you're in the front yard hollarin at your neighbor about his dog romping through your trashcan.
     
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