Mescaline Citrate

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  1. C123-473

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    All the mescaline extraction methods I’ve seen posted are rather complicated. Many require cooking, guestimating calculations for acid, de-fatting, rinsing, on and on. Actually, most recipes read like they were written while under the influence. While that may be positive testimony for the procedure, it doesn’t aid replication.

    Here’s a tried and true recipe that is short, sweet, and very easy to repeat. It’s a stripped-down, straight-forward version of the "straight to base" method.

    The equipment costs a bit of money, and the process is time consuming, but it is all very rewarding. Mescaline is one of the friendliest, most fascinating substances ever discovered. Just please be responsible.







    Easy Three-Step Mescaline Citrate







    Materials needed:

    1) Peruvian torch or San Pedro cactus powder
    2) Lye (use gloves and ventilation)
    3) Xylene (use gloves and ventilation)
    4) Glass gallon jug with lid or stopper
    5) Glass funnel
    6) Glass jars
    7) Citric acid
    8) Long dropper pipette
    9) Glass turkey baster
    10) Measuring cup and teaspoon
    11) Square Pyrex dish and fan for evaporation



    Step 1 - Extraction: (Base / Non-Polar)

    Mix 1-cup (300g) lye into 3 quarts cold water, stirring constantly. Pour into jug. Caution HOT! Use ventilation!

    Add 100+ grams (~2/3 cup) powdered cactus to the jug. Mix well.

    Add ~1 quart xylene to the jug. Shake and roll to mix well.

    Mix occasionally over the next 24+ hours as the lye breaks down the cactus.

    Allow enough time for separation into layers before proceeding to the next step.



    Step 2 - Salt: (Acid / Polar)

    Prepare acidic solution by diluting ½ teaspoon citric acid into ½ cup distilled water.

    Collect top xylene layer from the jug using the baster, putting the xylene into a new jar.

    Add approximately one-fifth of the prepared acidic water to the xylene jar.

    Put the lid on the xylene jar and shake it up a few times. Wait a couple minutes to settle.

    Collect bottom water layer using a long dropper.

    Return xylene to the cactus solution and mix for another 24 hours.

    (Add one tablespoon of lye to the jug after the third extraction.)

    Complete 5 extractions over 5 days to use all of the water.



    Step 3 - Evaporation:

    Pour the collected water into a flat-bottomed glass dish under a fan in a low humidity/mild temp environment.

    After a few days, scrape the residue from the dish and powder using a razor blade. The powder will continue to dry over the next few days.

    Makes 3-10 doses depending on potency of cactus and dosage desired.
     
  2. name_mike

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    got a few questions.
    is the citric acid just the powder which can be bought or is that too week?
    are rubber bungs ok for the glass gallon jug?
    are the resulting crystals white or brown?

    also have you done this yourself, has it ever gone wrong and if so why?

    thanks
     
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    what type of lye is used, sodium hydroxid? ive come across a few different chemicals all calling themselves lye thats all?
     
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    thought of another. if i was extracting from say 500g of cactus would i do it differently or just use the same quantities of chemicals/solvent?
     
  5. C123-473

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    Citric acid means straight citric acid. Not lemon powder, or anything else.Lye means sodium hydroxide. Not drain cleaner with detergent, or anything else.

    A rubber stopper is fine because even if the xylol begins to soften it, no rubber will be transferred to the evaporated aqueous layer. I just like to be on the cautious side. Maybe the best thing to do is get a gallon of apple juice and hold onto the lid.

    The crystals that precipitate out of the water are whiteish/clear.
    The residue at the bottom of the evaporation dish is white/yellowish/clear.
    After the residue is scraped and powdered, it is white/very pale yellow.

    For 500 grams, 4 procedures with 125 grams each time would be ideal.

    I personally would never do anything illegal, but I have heard that if the evaporation dish is in an environment that is too hot and humid, it will take forever to set up.
     
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    Sorry, I can't endorse actually making the stuff, and therefore I can't really say which items you should buy. I'm offering this information merely for the sake of knowledge. But, citric acid is a powder.
     
  8. name_mike

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    no i would never do this either, just was wondeing from a scientific stand point
     
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    what would one do if during step 2 they took up the fats with the xylene and being a stupid idiot added the acid without thinking thus leaving a acid (containing mescal) and fats mixture at the bottom of the jar. could one separate the fats from the acid?
     
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    If one were to take up some aqueous cactus layer along with the xylol, add distilled water to the xylol, then separate. This will clean the xylol before you add the acid to make the salts.

    But, if the acid is already added, you might want to put it back into the jug.

    If you don't care, and try to just go through with it anyway and it doesn't set up, you can re-dissolve everything in clean basic xylol again (discard the dirty water), then add more acidic water to the xylol to salt it out again. This will leave you with a dark brown residue at the bottom of the evaporation dish (instead of white), but it's still ok.

    Tip: The *goodies* go into the nonpolar solvent (xylol) when basic, and into the polar solvent (water) when acidic.
     
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    think a rescue has been made from the first one. its separate and will evaporate it separately from the good stuff. do the goodies float on top of the acid solution looking like a clear oil.
     
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    No. After the addition of acid, the mescaline citrate starts forming, and is transferred into the polar solvent (water).

    When looking at the fresh extraction water, it would be normal to see small spots of xylol which burst and actually evaporate faster than the water, so aren't really that much of a concern. It really stinks for the first day, so proper ventilation is necessary.

    If the alkaloid content of the cactus is low, the liquid will thicken to a syrup before a swirly crystal pattern forms on the glass. This is a sign of being heavy on the citric acid.

    If the alkaloid content of the cactus is high, white crystals will precipitate out, with a much thinner liquid evaporating to a glittery crystal residue.

    The recipe can be adjusted to suit whatever grade of cactus is available.
     
  13. name_mike

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    think i was heavy on the citric or have a low content then. its just a clear sticky smear around the bottom of the glass at the moment after about 2 days.
     
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    If 5 extractions are done over 5 days, you'll get as much as you can from the cactus without getting too crazy.

    A fan will speed the process of evaporation, as will low humidity.
    But don't worry, just give it time. It will set up. Sometimes it's nice to have a little extra citric acid. It can help with dosing when you have more material.
     
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    how long does it normally take to set up so i can plan the forthcoming weekend, (with a fan)
     
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    It really depends on the humidity and amount of excess citric acid.
    Crystals should start to form after 3-4 days.
    It should totally crystalize after maybe 5-6.
    Then, scrape and chop it up, and it will continue to dry for another week. (If you let it, that is.)
     
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    i think your idea is wonderful thank you.
     
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    Here are a couple of photos taken of evaporation plates.

    The first picture shows the result of a recipe very high in citric acid (1 tsp CA \ 100g cactus).

    The second picture shows the result of a recipe with low acid, maybe perfect, actually. The results of a 1-teaspoon extraction was dissolved in water and used again as if it were the beginning pure citric acid for a second 100 gram extraction. Basically, a one-teaspoon of citric acid extraction of 200 grams of strong cactus.

    That brings up another good point. If there are concerns that some mescaline could be left in the cactus, one last "clean-up" extraction can be done with another 3/4 teaspoon of citric acid in 1/2 cup of water. The water can be evaporated and the powder used as the starting acid for the next round.

    ...Pretty, aren't they?
     
  19. mask_of_insanity

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    is the citric acid salts left behind dangerous
     
  20. mask_of_insanity

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    and what if im using whole cactus
     

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