men can handle larger amounts of drugs than women

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by baloon, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. baloon

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    is this just a myth? can men really trip smoother on larger quantities of drugs than women?
     
  2. StonerBill

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    Why not? Mens body's tend to be able to handle harsher conditions. That includes resisting the effects of foreign agents
     
  3. neodude1212

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    with psychedelics, I would think the focus would be more on the mind rather than on the body.

    I dont really see why one would think that men are better suited for tripping than women are as a whole. Personally, I'm incredibly sensitive to drugs and it takes barely anything to set me off. I also have anxiety, which makes me very prone to bad trips that I dont handle well at all. Conversely, I have a female friend who consumes large amounts of drugs, never wigs, and handles her shit quite well. It's all about the individual, not a gender, especially when venturing into psychedelic territory.
     
  4. StonerBill

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    /Yes it is all about the individual

    but there are generalised differences over the whole. The Male and Female brain is different just like the male and female body is.

    there will always be a woman stronger than a man and a man smaller than a woman but men are on the whole bigger and stronger than woman, by a fair bit.
     
  5. neodude1212

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    well, if you believe that the brain is the source of actual consciousness and thought, then I would have to agree with you that the physical brain differences between male and females could possibly make one gender more suitable to psychedelic use.

    However, I tend to think that consciousness is metaphysical in nature, and as a direct result, still think that any sort of gender-based generalization on a greater capacity for drug use is faulty.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that the level of individualistic nature that psychedelic finese would rely on runs deeper than sex.
     
  6. kil0

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    i think bodyweight would factor more than gender...
     
  7. StonerBill

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    I dont think body weight would factor that much, since the brain is the same size and the volume of blood is not directly proportional to body weight.

    As for belief in a metaphysical basis in the mind, then it leaves even more room open for differences between man and woman, for anything can be the case in a metaphysical world.

    At any rate, people too quickly jump on the wagon and assuming having a greater 'capacity' for drugs is a good thing. all it means is that women's brains have less protecting them from chemical influence - which makes sense considering how susceptible women are to hormonal influence.

    Its an entirely different story whether they actually have a better or worse experience, or whether they can mentally handle the various states that they are put in.

    But since men on the whole require more external influence to interfere with their internal processes, they can on the whole 'handle' a larger amount of drugs than women, on the whole.
     
  8. Gormur

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    Size doesn't matter at all (I'm 54kg - 179cm tall) Brain chemistry, tolerance, genetics matter the most. -- I have a naturally high tolerance for alcohol that I can't explain. I can go a year without drinking anything, go out and buy a 12-pack, finish it in an hour then go drink some more and only be a little buzzed and energized.

    The only time I ever had a hangover was on my 21st birthday when I blacked out after 23 drinks, including beer, tequila, and vodka shots in 2 hours. All I remember is puking about 4 times and a little blood was in it, then waking up face flat on my friend's hardwood floor in the living room about 3 hours later, totally awake and rested and ready for another drink and some codeine to get rid of my headache, hehe.

    If anything, I'm sure my liver is fucked. Lately I take way too many pain killers at once, usually 3-4 750mg Vicodin and a Robaxin or two 750mg also..only when I can get it for free through a friend. I would never pay for it. I know I should really do a CWE next time. The APAP OD is no fun at all.. one time I started convulsing after downing 5 Vicodin in an hour and felt my heart skip a couple beats. Scary as hell.

    How much of the APAP is left after a CWE extract (percentage), btw?
     
  9. StonerBill

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    that sounds loose. i dont trust the things you say. 5 vicodin definately dont hav enough acetominophen to do jack shit
     
  10. Gormur

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    I took 2 Robaxin750mgs with the Vicodin, but don't know if that would cause some adverse reaction..the combo or the pills themselves.

    The Vicodin pills I get are 750mgs each, with 5mgs hydro and 745mgs APAP, so that'd be 3725mgs of APAP for 5 pills.

    What would a lethal dosage be then? =/ There's no way I imagined that shit. It felt like I had a mild seizure. I couldn't control my movement for about 20 minutes, started moving my legs and head and hands shook for a while then I'd see these little floaties and flashes every few minutes. it was horrifying actually. I had no control.
     
  11. LJDV

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    I think it would have a lot to do with body fat levels too, as women naturally have more body fat than men. A lot of drugs are lipid soluble, which would mean that women may absorb more of the drug, and therefore require less to achieve said state of inebriation.
     
  12. StonerBill

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    That would actually mean it would take more to get a woman high because the drug would be absorbed into the fat in their bodies more and less would get to their brain.

    I havnt heard anything about men vs women fat levels in the brain and lungs though... but still.
     
  13. neodude1212

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    ok but I thought this was just about psychedelics.
     
  14. StonerBill

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    The thread did not initially specify which drugs,

    it doesnt matter in the end anyway, if you get a guy and a girl randomly off the street of a similar build, there will be differences but we cant tell unless we measured them.

    If we are talking about just psychedelics, the difference would be minor, and could be in womens favour even, but there would be a definate difference
     
  15. Gormur

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    brain chemistry.
     
  16. neodude1212

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    well it is in the psychedelic forum....
     
  17. StonerBill

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    half of the psychedelic forum is not psychedelic-specific. the psychedelic forum is actually the 'drug forum minus teenage stoner crowd'
     
  18. salmon4me

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    I say size matters. Maybe not with acid, but it does with some pills. Also does with alcohol in most cases. And just because some people can get used to large amounts of alcohol doesn't change that fact.
     
  19. Gormur

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    I'm sure it's more genetics (biochem) than anything else...everyone in my family has a huge tolerance to alcohol and many are alcoholics, including my grandfather. I would think my natural tolerance would be a result of genetics, too...I have very low blood pressure and fast metabolism, which must help.

    Also, I know a disproportionate number of East Asians and Natives who cannot hold their alcohol...one or two beers and they go red in the face from drunkeness..and almost all of them are heavier than me.
     
  20. Traceroni.

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    I can out drink and with do a lot of guys with certain things. It's hard to say because some people are "built" for drinking or drugs while others just pass out or something
     
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