"Men and women are Different"

Yes, it is quite clear that you have no concept of what is meant by the term "patriarchy."

Perhaps this will help.

And if you ever get the chance, read Allan Johnson's The Gender Knot. I think you'd find it quite enlightening.

Basically, patriarchal social structures are those which are:

Male dominated--which doesn't mean that all men are powerful or all women are powerless--only that the most powerful roles in most sectors of society are held predominantly by men, and the least powerful roles are held predominantly by women. Think about the current political structure in this county, the number of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies who're men vs. women (less than 20 are headed by women).

Organized around an obsession with control, with men elevated in the social structure because of their presumed ability to exert control (whether rationally or through violence or the threat of violence) and women devalued for their supposed lack of control--women are assumed to need men's supervision, protection, or control. Think of the continual assault by male legislators on women's right to choose and how they control their own reproductive health choices - that is the perfect example of this. In many cases, a lot of women have bought into this idea and often even support those structures (i.e., calling other women sluts, blatantly supporting male attempts to control women, etc - you find this a lot with those in fundamentalist religious faiths).

Male identified: aspects of society and personal attributes that are highly valued are associated with men, while devalued attributes and social activities are associated with women. Think of words that are used to convey power vs. those designed to reflect wimpishness (stud, vs. pussy, for example). There is a sense of threat to the social structure of patriarchies when these gendered associations are destabilized--and the response in patriarchy is to increase the level of control, often by exerting control over women (as well as groups who are devalued by virtue of race, ethnicity, sexuality, or class).

Male centered: It is taken for granted that the center of attention is the natural place for men and boys, and that women should occupy the margins. Public attention is focused on men. (To test this, take a look at any daily newspaper; what do you find on the front page about men? about women?).

Things are changing. Slowly, but they are. But it will be quite some time before we can no longer call our society one with a patriarchal bent.

You better learn to understand it since you're going to have to live within it for the foreseeable future.

 

Just stating a fact! If it bugs you ignore it.

 

It's good to be the king

 

Didn't bug me at all. Whether or not you get the acknowledgment you feel you deserve for having a supposedly amazing sex life is completely irrelevant to me. So, again, so what?

 

I don't need to come on a forum to get acknowledgment for the amazing sex life I have! I get that at home with my very sexually confindent girlfriend and I was looking not for it here or talking about myself. I was giving an opinion on the subject which is what an open forum is for. So, again if you don't like it ignore it.

 

It obviously does bother you though. After all, you claim you're called.arrogant, picked on and so forth. If this doen't matter to you, why bother commenting at all?

 

Actually I was not talking about myself at all, because like I said I don't need to come on a forum to get attention! I was talking about many of the other guys that I have seen come on here and get torn apart for doing the same thing woman do all the time. So if your opinion about what I have to say is so what why bother commenting on it at all?

 

Women with many lovers are sluts, and men with many lovers are admired. Opinion that men are users form when they are flippant about their experiences, whereas when women share experiences, all the men wank.

 

Lol, that is great! I think you are on to something about all the men wanking. I get the impression there is a lot of that here.

 

Not talking about yourself? Suuuure, ok.

 

This,

Plus this. I wished it was more obvious but like Mike said, too many people are stuck playing roles and living up to expectations, so we fail to see it.


To say any differences in behavior and such is GENETIC or NATURAL is nonsense. It's all learned, via society and upbringing. Patterns/roles we've depended on for so long. (Patterns/roles enough people haven't questioned enough, imo).


Maybe extra testosterone makes men more playful/aggressive/natural hunters, and estrogen makes women more prone to feeling-sensors, thus making good nurturers, but in our modern society, people are intelligent enough to pretty much become or fulfill any of those roles.

disclaimer: did not give this complete thorough thought, so not sure where my opinion lies... It can be a fun thing that 'men and women are different' too.

 

I presume you include yourself. Since you're into swinging, clearly she would not mind, correct.

 

It would be so nice if two people that like each other would break out of gender roles/expectations and instead just be individuals! Be open, demonstrative, provide clarity, be honest/vulnerable, and trust. I just had this conversation with a fuck friend last night.

 

I don't really have any need to and no my lady would not mind at all!

 

Doesn't bug you, but you can't let it go? Suuuure, ok.

 

It's like I'm trying to reason with a three year old.

 

I was thinking the same thing.

 

It's almost too predictable....

My dad could beat up your dad!

 

I often think that is the reaction people are looking for when they start shit on this site!

 

Well, it looks like you fell into the trap. Better luck next time!