"Men and women are Different"

This is gonna sound retarded, but we've seen ample evidence here of at least 4 women (Blond Girl, Karen J, Me, GGBlondie) who can have sex without getting attached, who know the difference between having sex and making love, who can separate their emotions from sex, who like sleeping around, etc.

So what do people mean when they say that men and women are different? Do they mean "in general"? Are they mistaken?

Boys wear blue, girls wear pink
Boys play with trucks and action figures, girls play with dolls and kitchen sets

Are these things innate, or are men and women socialized to be different? Can you raise a boy to wear pink and play with dolls? Are these stereotypes? What about tomboys?

Is gender a social construct? Or is there such as thing as a masculine/feminine brain?

Are men socialized to be horndogs who spread the seed and settle down later (if ever) while women wait for them? Or is that innate? If so, why are the four of us like that?

Why are women who have casual sex dismissed from the equation as sluts, as if that means they don't exist, while men who are "one woman men", who just want to get married and raise kids, not stigmatized for not being typical men?

 

Question, how many of you four wild women were 'tomboys'?

 

What do I look like, an anthropologist??

 

beyond that, i don't know. there are "in general" differences, although i don't know how much is innate and how much is a social construct.

the differences certainly do generally go beyond willingness to sleep around though.

 

I think different people mean it different ways. However, most people mean it generally (at least, those with intelligence do). There are many basic differences between men and women, biologically, emotionally, psychologically, etc.

Gender is indeed a social construct. (Male vs. female sex is a biological construct, on the other hand).

I played with Tonka trucks when I was growing up. I didn't care for boys at all, but befriended the neighbor boy specifically so I could play with his Tonka toys! Haha. I didn't wear a lot of pink; my parents didn't go that far with me. But they also did buy me things like an Easy Bake Over (which I loved!), Barbie dolls (which in my case were mostly lesbian). The social construct of gender is reinforced as we grow up through interactions with parents and other cultural interfaces (i.e., churches, schools, other kids, other kid's parents, etc.)

Scientific study of the brains of males and female shave revealed considerable structural differences.

[quote[Are men socialized to be horndogs who spread the seed and settle down later (if ever) while women wait for them? Or is that innate? If so, why are the four of us like that?[/quote]

There are arguments for either side of this. Most evolutionary scientists argue that both sexes are evolutionarily non-monogamous (read Sex at Dawn, if you've not thus far), and that women have been socially coerced into monogamy through a variety of means.

Again, those are cultural constructs developed and refined over the course of thousands of years. Things are beginning to change, however, if ever so slowly.

As for me, I don't give two shits if someone thinks I'm a slut. I enjoy my sexuality the way I want to enjoy it. If someone else has a problem with that, then it's their problem.

 

They're gonna be as different as you're convinced

Or as similar as you see them for.

Anything more is just gonna hurt your head bro. I mean sis.

 

most differences between men and women are artificial constructs.

 

I think there are many differences between men and women, but also, it's a generalization.

For example, sense of orientation. Men usually have a better sense of orientation than women, but of course there are some women who have a very good sense of orientation, and some men who don't.

I think it's the same with sex. Probably most women can't have sex without getting attached, but again, that doesn't mean that no woman can.

And I do think there are masculine/feminine brains and that most of these differences are innate.

 

I don't judge what a person does or doesn't do based on what sex they are! I judge them on what kind of person they are. There are shitty and good people in both sexes.

 

does not compute

 

A healthy woman is going to have a lot more estrogen and a lot less testosterone in her body than an average man. These chemicals are known to have a serious impact on our emotions and attitudes, but they don't prevent us from trying new things or learning to do things differently.

I have no doubt that casual sex comes more easily and naturally to a man. I tried that approach because I saw some major social benefits at the time, and I knew that other girls in my peer group had been able to do it. I learned to like it and it became a part of me.

Whenever a man or woman is drawn to something or naturally goes about doing something a certain way but you realize it isn't the best situation for you, you can always change your way of thinking, if you try hard enough. It doesn't matter what you've been taught. Any adult can realize that their parents' way of doing things is only one option among many, and it might not be the best way for you.

 

Estrogen makes one far more attentive when doing laundry. In fact you cant do laundry without it

 

I don't really buy socialization. Society is innate. Skyscrapers are as natural as mountain peaks.

Women who enjoy sex with multiple partners are not escaped slaves torn asunder from the shackles of patriarchal oppression. They are none other than mutations.

Mutation is what pop Darwinists gloss right over about actual scientific Darwinism. As if evolution was static in spite of its name.

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Edit: To answer the question, men and women are different. Generally speaking. By which we mean, 'the vast majority.' And those differences aren't neatly equivalent in value or value-neutral, either. Reality has no time for political correctness.

 

There are differences, Perfect example is check out that thread "Sometimes the best sex is just dry Humping" in the orgasmic experience section. (That was on the main page a few posts down when I came upon this thread) No guy would create such a thread if he has even the slightest amount of sexual capabilities.

 

thanks thesamantha for stating theobvious
yes we know women can have sex with randoms just like guys do ( its called college)

as for your age old question: hers an age old anwser "a master key(man) that can open any lock(women) shows greatness while a lock that any key can open is useless"

though this post seems more of a rant- its kinda funny

 

I really like this answer and I think it makes a lot of sense. I have never understood what feminists mean by the patriarchy. Where is it? Its not in the home of so many single mothers.

But I wonder if what you say holds true considering the fact that after I lost my reputation in middle school I remained a virgin until age 22. Then got therapy and found myself, opening up sexually. No socialization?

 

Men and women are not different. What is different is the expectation for both, and I think by and large, each tries to live up to these expectations. Men are expected to sleep with a lot of women, and those who do are seen as studs. Because this is a known expectation in our society, guys go out and try to do that. For women, its the opposite, they know that society looks down on that, so they either try to not sleep with a lot of men, sleep with a lot of men and keep it on the d/l, or sleep with a lot of men and think they're a slut. My current gf/fbuddy has slept with over 100 men/women and routinely says she "knows" shes a slut. I think i've been with around 100+ women, but I dont think I am a male slut at all. I wish there were more women like the original poster, and the members she named who don't think theyre anything other than completely normal people who just enjoy sex with a lot of partners, but its the expectations of society, I believe, that make that uncommon.

 

One difference I see between men and woman on this forum is that if a woman comes on here and talks positive about their sex life or brags about how good they are at it they get praised and worshipped! If a man does the same thing they are called arragont, picked on or ignored.

 

So what?

 

I really like this answer and I think it makes a lot of sense. I have never understood what feminists mean by the patriarchy. Where is it? Its not in the home of so many single mothers.

But I wonder if what you say holds true considering the fact that after I lost my reputation in middle school I remained a virgin until age 22. Then got therapy and found myself, opening up sexually. No socialization?