I was thinking about the whole justification of eating meat by the masses. I find it rather comical that some claim it to be OK due to the fact that "animals eat other animals". Should we begin to base ALL of our moral convictions on the patterns of animals? Perhaps we should (in some cases) eat our young? Our engage in rampant sex? The truth of the matter is- as human beings living in animal bodies, we are privaleged with the minds and resources to think at a higher level than these beings, and THAT should never give us the right to exploit them, only justifying it by drawing a parallel to how THEY behave. If we REALIZE that wild animals are barbaric by nature, namely in their eating habits- why should WE, beings with intellect far superior to them try to emulate such actions? Is this not simply putting us on the same MORAL plane as them, and, when we consider the fact that we are gifted with the ability to rationalize moreso than them, couldn't we argue that we are even MORE barbaric than they are? Come to your senses people- stop perpetuating this cycle of needless death and waste.
Like now? But I'm not ready yet! I need to put on my party dress! Can we at least eat our young first?
I eat meat but I have never claimed to be more intelligent or superior than any other animal. By eating meat- thus contributing to the death of other animals to fuel your own existance, are you not automatically placing yourself ahead of those animals? If you truly thought what you claim, there is no way that you could justify eating meat.
By the way- by rampant sex I was simply referring to something that does not require any moral thought- more like natural urges and the like.
I'm not placing the VALUE of my life over that of certain animals, I am simply saying that we, as human beings are gifted with a higher level of intellect (as a general rule) and rather than putting this to use, and realizing that engaging in such wasteful acts is simply unjustifiable, we justify it by foolish sayings and notions.
I have none. But I am patient by nature, take your time. Natural urges for sex fuel my morality. The animals would be dead whether BraveSirRubin eats them or not. However, if he were to hunt animals for survival purposes, wouldn't that make him superior to them?
That's a very ignorant statement. Every single human being on earth is contributing to the death of an animal with their existence, even if that human does not eat any animals. Just because I'm no better than it doesn't mean that I will give up my survival for its. A lion does not think that he is superior of more intelligent than an antelope... a lion just eats the antiloppe because the lion wants to survive. Believe me, the antilope would eat the lion if it was in the same position and had the ability. I sympethise with animals, I don't even kill insects... but I'm going to have my damn steak. Animals will die regardless of my eating habits.
I think we should get a vegan to donate their young for us to eat. That way we don't have to eat animals.
"The animals would be dead whether BraveSirRubin eats them or not. However, if he were to hunt animals for survival purposes, wouldn't that make him superior to them?" -It is true that they would be dead either way, but by eating them you are supporting the cycle, showing that there is demand for more meat- and that demand will be met by an upkeep of cows and pigs etc. First off I think your hunting point is irrelevant, but no. Unless he is hunting with his bear hands, I would have to say hell no. He is given a weapon, while the animal relies on its natural instincts- if he were to craft his own weapon- maybe he would be superior but that was never my point to begin with...so... I'm saying that humans are in fact mentally superior to theses animals (in our capacity to formulate moral decisions) thus we should not pattern our diets based on theirs...
How noble that would be..... every hippie ought to give up its young, for the sake of animals everywhere!
okay. because one person's eating habits is going to effect the entire meat industry. if animals could use weapons you better believe that they would... it is our inbred instinct to find solutions to problems. cave people from millenia ago developed weapons to aid in killing animals and keep our species alive. if not for our ever-developing instincts we would not be able to talk about this.
I do realize that animals will die regardless of your specific eating habits, yet...as a direct result of your habits certain animals could be spared a death or a torturous existance... I do not think your lion analogy stands up at all, by killing something for suposed SURVIVAL there are obvious implications that you feel you are worthy to do such a thing, just showing that you (possibly subconsciously) feel that you are greater than that being. Yes, why not eat a vegan? Would be splendid.
If you don't think that one person can have an impact than talk to the founders of popular veganism and look at how it has spread since (about a hundred years or so) One person CERTAINLY has an effect, not just in his or her own actions, but in the potential for urging others to show similar sympathy, it's sort of a grassroots movement I guess...
No. In this consumer based economy the demand of meat never goes down, shit... even if 100,000 people stopped eating meat all together in one single day, there would still be the same amount of animals murdered. Plus... millions of rodents and so on are murdered during vegetable farming process... why don't you stop eating veggies and save those poor souls? Killing something for survival has nothing to do with what you feel. Survival is an INSTINCT... it has nothing to do with worth. I would love to eat a vegan.
I'll check in tomorrow- I need to rest my frail vegan bones and concoct other ways to disturb you and your dietary ventures...sorry for the inconvenience
