Okay So I have been thinking about this and decided I would try to get a group opinion. Do you guys think that having children in an already over-crowded world is still the positive that we have all been taught that having kids is (wait did that just make sense)? In essence can we consciously contribute to the overcrowding of the planet? Please note I am NOT not not trying to condemn anybody here who wants to have children or who has them. Children are a gift from the goddess. All I want to do is open a discussion for people (especially those who don't have children) to consider what their future will/should be like.
Well I'm not even sure if I will ever want to be a mother, but if I ever do I'm sure I'll try to adopt instead of bringing someone else in the world when there are so many children in the world already who need loving homes. My view for my personal situation/guessiong at my future choice is partly because of the population issue mentioned in the above post and also because I myself grew up in foster care - was adopted when I was 11 so I've been there. It used to make me angry seeing people trying to have chidren "of their own" when there are already kids out there who need a family. I'm not anymore though - I understand that to a lot of people bloodlines are really important and that many people see adoption as risky (especially when adopting older kids) because you won't know the effects of usually traumatic chidhood experiences until you're already legally responsible for the child. And a lot of people don't want that; they want the "perfect" kid. Sorta like people only wanting puppies because you can train them exactly how you'd like them to be. (ideally.) I guess a lot of people see adopting children as putting themselves at risk of getting yourself in over your head with a "damaged" product. (last line a little sarcastic)... Before I do I want to be sure I'm at a point in my life where I can give my child the best life that I can (emotionally and financially) - Not bring another person into my home for a selfish reason. As of right now, I see myself doing a lot of things in my life - but the motherhood role is not something I see in my future for many reasons.
humans suck .....im sure glad there are no little greedy coppies that i have made ......the only good thing i ever did was to leave no more fucking useless destructive asshole human beings on earth
Yeah, I've been thinking with that. Just like keeping old people alive, it may be nice on small scale but on the large scale we're going to have a really big problem in a few decades time. We already HAVE a big problem. People live longer than they were ever meant to, and the earth bears the burden. Adopting would be so much better than 'having' kids, I think. And not just because of me being a gay guy and all. But yeah. It would be better.
If i carry on the 'normal' way of life, then no i don't want kids, for the reasons you said. If however i actually manage to have my ideal lifestyle of running a farm and being self sufficiant, then i may adopt or have one of my own, so they can carry on the farming when i'm too old. Is that selfish? probably.
I think consciously refusing to procreate is the best thing that can be done for society. with some 7 billion people and rising, we will be lucky if we can provide for any of them in the coming decades.
www.vhemt.org i think that's it what a wonderfull idea. i know it's not gonna happen, but think of the damage not done by just 1 less baby
vhemt.org seems to be a bit more radical than what I had in mind, but it's the same general idea, reducing population by voluntary restraint from procreation.
Wow I'm really glad there are people out there who agreed with the comments above. And to the response that there is no overpopulation... yes it is true that there is plenty of SPACE to provide to people. (I think I once heard if everyone in the world lived in Texas the state would be as dense (population wise) as New York City) However the question really is how many people can our planet feed and house without being overburdened? The toll our modern society (yeah this includes EVERYONE in the world) is taking on the environment is unthinkable and the consequences of our actions cannot be determined (simply beacause noone can accurately predict the future). It is up to us NOW to stop what is being done *she says while sitting on her computer...* Any more thoughts?.. I think nhemt said it all
ive always wanted to see the product of my genetic fusion but the truth is i dont think i have the heart to bring another person into this world...
I am pro-extinction, yes. Maybe save for a chosen few who know how to do it better, maybe not even that.
As I read the preceding comments I had an overwhelming affirmation that having children was so necessary for a human beings growth. For a women to give birth tests her and rewards her on so many levels, and then nurturing this little dependent fosters maturity and responsibility. For a man to relate to babies and children softens his warrior nature, and he matures rapidly as he relates to someone so small who needs him and looks to him for a role model. I guess I could have adopted, but wouldnt change anything about my five natural births, and five beautiful daughters. I am so happy to be who I am, and feel I owe it to my greatest teachers and best friends, my children. It may seem selfish to have children so you can grow and learn, but it has been the most rewarding experience of my life. The thing about not wanting children because you don't like yourself all that much and don't want little "you's," well you see, you would change from taking on the life of mother or father, and that transformation is most time a positive one. Some people call children Little Buddhas because they help you toward enlightment as you are forged by their presence into more spiritual beings. Well what do you think??????
Im still up in the air on the kid thing...im looking at 30, so i need to make up my mind fast...however, I have a big opinion on overpopulation. i think we are, and overpopulation means overconsumption. but if anyone follows history or, namely, anthropology, you will notice that mother earth fights overpopulation by disease (the plague during 12th century europe), natural disaters, and war. I do want to have ONE child, but that maternal thingy just hasn't given me the drive to be excited about having kids. I think Im too selfish for kids. And I have little patience with them. Cain't help it. If it happens, it happens.....i guess
i already have children so I can't say I do not support having children. I do know that if, well, actually when I have more children they will be adopted, but not because of over population, but because I am miserable pregnant and its horribly painful and I think that I could better serve the children without home by providing them a loving and permanent home. I am already a foster parent and will continue that work also. also, I do know that most over population is in areas that have little or no education reguarding birth control or it is a religious thing or they can not afford it. I also read a report I can't remember where I will look it up, that in some countries so many people have decided not to have children that the population is on a serious decline to the point that the population will not even be stable --good news for the extinctionist bad for us who want the human race to survive.
I am not having kids. The world is too fcked up. I am too selfish (don't want to delay my retirement by 10 years). I for one am OK with this world, as we know it, ending sometime soon. Whether it's another ice age, total nuclear annihilation, oe something even more intersting, I am down. What do yall think?
