mcdonalds founder was a satanist

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  1. chaos

    chaos Member

    i just came across this article

    Was McDonald's Founder Ray Kroc a Satanist?

    When McDonald's founder Ray Kroc appeared on the 1970's talk show "Mike Douglas" I just happened to be watching. I was only a teenager then but the show was seared into my memory. When Mike Douglas asked Ray what he did with all his money he replied that he belonged to a satanic church and donated a lot of his money to it. My family stopped eating at McDonalds for quite awhile after that. However, since then the event seems to have been totally purged from American memory.

    A thorough search of the Internet shows how far the efforts to rewrite history have gone. The only sites mentioning the event describe it merely as an urban legend. However, the cover-up claims that the show was the Phil Donahue show in 1977, not the Mike Douglas show. The text on the different sites is nearly identical, although there are several authors claiming responsibility for it. In a book intended to 'debunk' satanic conspiracies entitled "Satan Wants You" Ray Kroc's satanism is also mentioned only as a rumor. Even Harvard Law School has a Ray Kroc debunking article on it's website.

    Nowhere have I been able to find an actual record that Ray Kroc appeared on the Mike Douglas show nor any mention of his satanism. The records have been purged. I know what I saw and have never heard anyone else mention it other than my own family at the time. I was never exposed to any urban legends about McDonalds. However, I have been exposed to the facts about the McDonalds Corporation.

    While McDonalds has done perhaps a minute amount of good with its Ronald McDonald houses, the harm caused by the company far outweighs the little good it may have tried to whitewash itself with. The reality is that McDonalds serves almost entirely unhealthy food and exploits children. Their 'food' is extremely high in fat and chemicals. They have a long history of causing environmental devastation, unimaginable cruelty to animals and exploitation of labor and children. McDonald's is an empire with nearly 30,000 stores in 119 different countries serving 47 million customers each day. The amount of damage done by McDonalds is so massive that it has altered the course of life on Earth.

    I have a cousin that manages a chicken slaughter house and he told me that what goes into chicken McNuggets® is the part of the chicken they would normally dispose of because it is inedible. His plant would grind the chicken parts into a slurry, bleach the dark gray mass till it turned white and then add chicken fat back in for flavor. The product would be extruded into nugget shapes, breaded and deep fried in hydrogenated oils. McDonald's website now only lists the ingredients for it's "Chicken McNuggets® Made with White Meat" so it is possible that it no longer sells the 'nuggets' made only from heads, bones, feet, feathers and entrails.

    I have met two different people that worked at slaughter houses with contracts to supply McDonalds. Both of them claimed that they were required to mix raw blood back into the meat. Why would McDonalds want raw blood mixed in with the hamburger? Was it part of a satanic ritual or merely for flavor? Does cow blood really taste so good?

    McDonald's crimes were well documented in the infamous McLibel Trial between McDonald's and a postman & a gardener from London (Helen Steel and Dave Morris). It ran for two and a half years and became the longest ever English trial. The Judge delivered his verdict in June 1997. The judge ruled that McDonalds 'exploit children' with their advertising, produce 'misleading' advertising, are 'culpably responsible' for cruelty to animals, are 'antipathetic' to unionization and pay their workers low wages. But Helen and Dave failed to prove all the points and so the Judge ruled that they had libeled McDonald's and should pay 60,000 pounds damages. They refused and McDonald's knew better than to pursue it. In March 1999 the Court of Appeal made further rulings against McDonald's in relation to heart disease and employment.

    The case brought numerous facts to life:

    Health & Nutrition
    Nutritionists argue that the type of high fat, low fibre diet promoted by McDonald's is linked to serious diseases such as cancer, heart disease, obesity and diabetes - the sort of diseases that are now responsible for nearly three-quarters of premature deaths in the western world. McDonalds consistently refuses to offer healthy food and has lied about its food ingredients. McDonalds has been responsible for numerous cases of food poisoning. Even when it pretends to offer a healthy menu item it loads the food with unhealthy ingredients.

    Genetic engineering of food crops poses a tremendous threat to human health and the Earth's eco-systems. McDonalds' purchase of genetically engineered ingredients supports corporate criminals such as Monsanto and Dupont who are genetically engineering food only to control the world's food supply.

    Former McDonalds Chairman and Chief Executive Jim Cantalupo died from a heart attack in April, 2004 - no doubt caused by the same type of diet he sold to others. His successor, Charlie Bell, underwent colorectal cancer two weeks later. It is commonly known that colon cancer is caused by a diet high in meat and low in fiber, just what McDonalds sells.

    Animals & the Environment
    10 Billion animals are raised in horrible conditions and killed every year in the US alone. McDonalds consumes over a million tons of packaging each year, used for just a few minutes before being discarded. Over the years countless square miles of rainforest have been destroyed to raise cattle for McDonalds. McDonalds has lied about the amount of recycled material it uses and the amount it recycles. The McLibel case demonstrated that McDonald's was still obtaining beef for its stores from ranches situated on recently-cleared rainforest land. The enormous amount of waste is polluting our water and contributing to global warming.

    The demand for organic foods is growing at a rate of 40% a year yet McDonalds only sells non-organic food laden with chemicals. People want healthy food and are willing to pay more for it, why isn't McDonalds willing to sell it?

    Hunger & Poverty
    Third world countries are caught in a cycle of corruption where leaders are installed with the help of the US govt. and given large loans. Most of the money flows back to US corporations in the form of 'contracts' and the citizens of the country are left having to pay off the 'loans'. When a country can't meet its debt payments the World Bank and IMF require the country to cut social & environmental programs and expand cash crops such as tobacco, beef, and soybeans used to feed animals for fast food restaurants. Land used for growing locally needed food crops is converted to cash crops to help pay off the debt. When the inevitable famine occurs the US dumps the surplus from its own farmers onto the country, which prevents local farmers from being able to sell their crops. As local farmers lose their farms when they can't sell their crops, large multinational corporations step in to buy up the land for bargain basement prices.

    McDonalds directly contributes to the creation of hunger and poverty by buying the low-cost products produced by third world countries and offering food which is high on the food chain and resource intensive. It requires 2,500 gallons of water, 1 gallon of oil and 12 pounds of grain to produce 1 pound of meat. 70% of all US grain now goes to feed animals for human consumption.

    McDonalds could use its enormous buying power to support sustainable agriculture and provide goods job, but it doesn't. Why not?

    Exploitation of Children & Social Engineering
    Eating habits formed in childhood will stick with most people their entire life. McDonald's knows this and structures its organization to strongly appeal to children. A large percentage of McDonalds 2 Billion dollar advertising budget is used to target children. The play centers, toys and packaging are all designed to lure in children and hook them on an unhealthy diet. McDonalds aggressively campaigns to get it's advertising in schools and put restaurants in schools.

    It has been reported that the Stonington, Connecticut school system prodded all of its students into a mandatory assembly hosted by McDonalds. A corporate representative played a film about the joys of working in the fast food industry and handed out applications for local McDonalds restaurants. Those who filled out an application, got free coupons! The purpose of this "corporate partnership" was "career education." After the applications, the McDonalds Rep held mock interviews with volunteers. When asked to talk about himself, one 15 year-old pointed out that he didn't want to work at McDonalds because of its unethical history. The sophomore was removed and forced to read an apology over the P.A. system.

    It has been demonstrated that child behavior is greatly impacted by diet. The fast-food diet forced onto schools by companies like McDonalds results in slower learning and increased behavior problems. When a school for students 'at risk' switched from a garbage based diet to a healthy organic diet donated by a local bakery, the behavior of the students changed dramatically and they went from being one step away from jail to the district's leading students. If bad food has such a negative impact on kids why won't McDonalds sell better food?

    Imagine the kind of world we could have if McDonalds used it's social engineering to promote healthy and environmentally friendly food instead of the garbage it sells.

    Exploitation of Labor
    McDonald's and its franchises employ over a million people in low-paying dead-end jobs with few or no benefits. The company's 2003 profits exceeded $1.4 billion dollars. Complaints from employees range from discrimination and lack of rights, to understaffing, few breaks and illegal hours, to poor safety conditions and kitchens flooded with sewage, and the sale of food that has been dropped on the floor. Just 10% of its profits could go a long way in improving working conditions.

    In 1972 Ray Kroc funneled $250,000 to Richard M. Nixon in exchange for a 20% reduction in the minimum wage for teenagers. Afterwards Tricky Dick went a step further and publicly praised McDonalds.

    Suppression of Free Speech
    McDonalds aggressively sues anyone who might threaten their carefully contrived image. Whenever someone tries to expose the true nature of their company they launch an assault of propaganda and unleash their attack lawyers.

    "We have found out... that we cannot trust some people who are nonconformists... We will make conformists out of them... The organization cannot trust the individual; the individual must trust the organization." - Ray Kroc

    McDonalds suppresses freedom and basic human rights.

    Lies and More Lies
    McDonalds has consistently lied about it's food ingredients and it's record on the environment. It claimed that it's french fries were cooked in 100% vegetable for years yet in reality the french fries were first cooked in animal fat. It lied about it's recycling and lies about the quality of it's food. It lies about the health consequences of it's food and lies about the impact of it's advertising on children. McDonalds is a corporate liar.

    The Energy
    As quantum physicists and parapsychologists have discovered, everything in our world is a manifestation of energy. Physicists also say that energy can't be destroyed, only converted from one form to another. Information is a form of energy and it has recently been established that information can't be destroyed. Once something has existed an energetic record of it continues to exist, even if the physical record is destroyed.

    Imagine the energetic impact of torturing tens of billions of animals each year and then brutally killing them. Emotions have energy, thoughts have energy. Animals have much the same emotions as humans, a sense of self and the capacity to experience love as well as physical and emotional pain. How much negative energy is produced when we torture animals? Where does all that negative energy go? What is the impact on the human body and mind?

    Spirit entities are also a reality. While elusive, their presence can be measured and recorded. They have even communicated specific messages under laboratory conditions. Negative entities feed off of negative energy. So, if we are producing enormous amounts of negative energy are we feeding and causing the growth of negative entities?

    Is There Any Proof?
    While I don't have any proof other than my own memory that Ray Kroc confessed to being a satanist, the fact that someone has gone to so much trouble to counter the claim shows that I wasn't the only one that saw Ray Kroc confess. I seriously doubt that I started the 'rumor/urban legend' by talking about the event to a handful of people. I didn't publish a book on the topic or write an article about it, until now. So, others must have seen it, which means that it is likely that I have not hallucinated the entire thing and it is true. Ray Kroc did confess to being a satanist and that explains a lot about why McDonalds does so much harm and so little good in the world.

    If McDonalds restaurant was founded by a confessed satanist, is it any wonder that the restaurant refuses to sell vegi-burgers even though customers demand it?

    Even without the satanism of Ray Kroc it is obvious what kind of a company McDonalds truly is. It hooks children on bad food which causes massive environmental devastation and sickness and it is rapidly expanding its influence around the world. It doesn't use its resources to do good but evil.

    Judge for yourself and remember what you are paying for the next time you give McDonalds your money.

    Every year on the 16th October there is an annual World Day of Action against McDonald's and all they stand for - join in the fun!

    For more info. about McDonalds see the movie "Super-size Me" and visit

    By Bill Phillips

  2. indescribability

    indescribability Not To Be Continued

    wanna go get a mcchicken im hungry
  3. makno

    makno Senior Member

    and the hamberg is 1 % baby meat and 0.5%batsblood!!!
  4. daisymae

    daisymae I'm a Rhinestone Cowboy

    Aside from this being a stupid hoax, is there seriously a "Church of Satan"? What would they actually do there???

    I do not believe in God or Satan....but I am curious as to how one goes about worshipping evil without ending up in prison for life...
  5. makno

    makno Senior Member

    what would devil do??
  6. Jay02insd

    Jay02insd Member

    I know that Ray Croc's wife donated a huge percentage of there estate to the Salvation Army.??? Wonder if they do sacrifices and blood drinking in the Salvation Army???
  7. daisymae

    daisymae I'm a Rhinestone Cowboy

    Wouldn't he just poke everyone with a pitchfork and light the place on fire? (of course, that'd be his answer for everything...:D)
  8. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

    there is an actual Church of Satan run by Anton Levey is his name I think
  9. daisymae

    daisymae I'm a Rhinestone Cowboy

    Well, whaddya know it's There's a guy dressed up as some corny halloween devil on the front page...:D I really liked their rules page, here's an example...

    5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

    Now I just need to know what the mating signal is so i will never do it by mistake and get raped by a satanist...:D
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    So, Ray Crock was a Satanist.... along with George Bush, Ben Franklin, and many other prominent people that have had a "key role" in the world going back hundreds and thousands of years.
  11. chaos

    chaos Member

    yarr, if you read in the above post it says they put raw blood into the burger mix after precooking it....creepy
  12. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

    More to the point, I'd like to know what satan worshipers think they'd stand to get out of worshiping satan! I mean, wouldn't it really be reasonable to figure that satan doesn't need the help of humans, and any humans who worshiped him would simply be laughed at after they die, and he'd throw them into the fires of hell just like anyone else who went to hell, and say, "LOL. What the fuck did you think -- that I'd reward you?! WTF, man! I'm SATAN! I'm not about paying people what they're due because they helped out! I'm about lying, cheating, back-stabbing, hating, deceiving...!"

    I mean really, how fuckin' stupid would you have to be to worship satan?!

  13. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

    By the way, that anti-McDonald's rant was just so much unsubstantiated bullshit. It's easy to SAY that they paid Nixon to lower the minimum wage... and far harder to prove. For one thing, I am not even sure it's even true that the minimum wage has ever been decreased at any time. Hard to imagine it ever has been. How the fuck would they have ever justified that to congress, and to unions? Besides, the power to do that is CONGRESS' -- not the PRESIDENT'S!

  14. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

    Father of all lies...Blah dih blah blah...

    I'm sure most people who would call themselves satanists are disgruntled teens who are trying some feux rebellion aginst their 'rents who go to church every Sunday.

    But Satan is by far the most interesting character in the bible...

    God is a one dimensional, A father figure who judges his children and spanks them if they do wrong.

    Jesus is very compasionate, but also very naive... eventually getting murdred by the same people who he was trying to redeem. Also a very simple character.

    But the serpet wasn't simple.

    I don't believe in the bible, or god or satan.

    But I have read the Bible... and I think genesis is by far the most interesting part of the whole book...

    God creates adam... a mindless drone... in gods own image.

    Man was supposed to be god's protege...

    Man was supposed to be a naive ruler of Earth... ruling the garden of eden in a formula of god's design...

    A powerful but empty destiny awaited man.

    But along comes the serpet, (satan) and offers mankind a choice to usurp his destiny and taste the fruit of divine knowledge...

    Why would god keep free will away from humanity? Wouldn't god want to spread his knowledge... was he afriad of man's power once he had free will?

    The angel lucifer faced perdition if he gave humanity the chance to redem itself through knowledge...

    But he gave us the oppurtunity anyway... and Adam accepted.

    Satan was willing to accept an eternity in darkness to give humanity a chance for enlightenment.

    I would argue that satan is the hero of the bible.

    And the savior of humanity.

    I don't believe in the bible...

    But if I did... I would be a satanist.
  15. *clap clap clap* good lodui, very good.
  16. goldmund

    goldmund Member

    That article was stupid. It reminds me of a fowarded message in my inbox. McDonalds is a multinational corporation who's soul (ok, not funny) purpose is to make cash. They do certain things to maintain a respectable public image, and to adjust to changing markets. I don't know about in the states, but here in Germany, you can by a veggi burger (see last line in article). I guess they aren't satanists after all.
  17. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

    Thanks... sometimes my drunk ramblings can take on a life of their own. [​IMG]
  18. cat

    cat Member

    LMFAO!!!!! Thats pretty damn funny!!!
  19. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

    hm... interesting....
  20. chaos

    chaos Member


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