Mass shooting survivor has Harvard admission revoked

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  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree kids do dumb things but I truly believe he made those statements for a reason. Either that he wanted to be an edgy right wing teen and be "racist" on free speech grounds not actual racism or he is a true racist. Either way it's the right of a school to decide if they agree. You earn your way into a college by proving you are good enough morally and grade wise. It's an example of the free market. He is not given anything he must be good enough for it. I would figure he would support that. College no matter what is a hand out. How will he develop his character or work ethic if given a hand out? He has got a lesson that will build his character. He sees that to be an employable American you can not make statements like he has. Or at the least your employment is very limited.

    I see Fox does not agree. Oh well people like him just want to learn a trade anyway right? Who needs liberal colleges?

    Parkland school shooting survivor loses admission to Harvard after racist comments surface
     
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  2. SouthPaw

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    The irony is that Harvard has segregated graduation ceremonies. Black students don’t graduate with white students. And then there was the scandal back in the 90’s where Harvard was giving diplomas to black students who couldn’t pass their classes. Oh and let’s not forget Harvard is being sued for discrimination by Asian students.

    I don’t know why he’d want to go to Harvard anyway. He has to know Harvard has a reputation for being hostile towards conservative students (I’m a Boston native). It’s not like it’s a big secret. MA was just selected as the most politically intolerant state in the country. Harvard played a part in that.

    In the modern age of social media, he should have known better. He has no one to blame but himself.
     
  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    They are an elite school that deals with the world. European universities usualy don't care what Ohio State of the local community college does. I guess that brings the need to be very careful with politcal statements for Harvard's own business purposes. They are not friendly to conservatives since the world sees conservatives as the stereotypical American with a fat gut from too much food, and guns in their pick up truck.

    Few schools will pass the con test in current times anyway. All of them are full of information they don't want to hear. Like global warming is real and so is evolution and socialism does work in certain contexts. None of this pleases them.
     
  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Kyle Kashuv, seems to have fallen in love with the word “******”

    He was turned away by Harvard and rightfully so. He should try Dartmouth, he'd fit right in.[​IMG]
     
  5. SouthPaw

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    No, that’s how YOU see conservatives.

    Why would a Harvard student care about European universities? People looking to build a career actually doing something don’t use a Harvard degree to teach. They actually put it to use. My brother was accepted to both Harvard and Princeton. He turned them down. He’s double majoring in Political Science and International Relations and found a better program at another college in Boston that costs 1/3 of Harvard. He starts his internship in DC next month and completed two summer internships in Russia (he’s 28 years younger than me).

    I applied, but was turned down by Harvard. He’s a lot smarter than me. He’s a Charter School kid...me, I’m a product of good old fashioned public schools. That didn’t stop me from signing up for night classes at Harvard. You see, you don’t have to be accepted to Harvard to get a Harvard degree. You just have to pay them, and everybody gets accepted to night classes. I didn’t get my degree there, the classes were too expensive, but it’s kind of cool having a Harvard transcript even if I only took three classes. They weren’t really that hard.
     
  6. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    You believe the world thinks of Americans every time they see a conservative?

    I find that hard to believe. I imagine most of the world has no reason to think of Americans at all, conservative or otherwise.

    Except for those who visit this board to see what that Irish sounding Batman fellow is up to. He’s alright. For a yank.
     
  7. Tyrsonswood

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    So... you've been to Ohio. You should have called and stopped by for a visit.
     
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    op the same old gun gun gun bashing conservative bullshit..
    Colorado weed must suck dookie balls..
     
  9. YouFreeMe

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    It is up to Harvard to decide who they admit into their university-It is, after all, their university. Harvard must answer to it's students and donors; it must make difficult business and moral decisions. The young man in this story made racist statements and probably held, as he described, "abhorrent" beliefs.

    But this is not the first story of it's kind to come to light in recent years--not the first past comment to hold back the future of a young person. I think we need to pause and really reflect upon the influence of someone's past on their future, and what we think the effect of our past beliefs ought to have. How is this young man supposed to learn and evolve if he is denied scholarships? How many of us held beliefs when we were in high school that we now cringe about when we remember?

    This story will continue to emerge in different forms over the coming years, since we have access to years and years of people's past history through a social media footprint. I wonder how many of our past thinkers and leaders (and many other people whom we admire) have, at some point, said something problematic, but we have never heard because they lived in a time before everything was preserved in technological amber. They were given second chances, and we didn't even know it.

    And at what age should we stop holding things against people? How many years in the past does it need to have been? Elementary school, middle school, college? Which sins are forgivable, and which are not?

    Does his apology mean anything? How do we decide that?

    A lot to think about here.
     
  10. Most people are extremely immature in high school. I don't even think the late teens/early twenties are a good time for someone to be making serious decisions about their lives as they are instructed to do so in college. It seems they go to college to try to learn how to think maturely, but I don't think that really works, as even that (I went to college, so I'm mature) is an immature attitude to have. Young adults should take a few years, or ideally a decade, to work in and explore the real world. I'm aware that there are exceptions, but I think they're rare. I think colleges mostly host immature young people who never learn to develop maturity in the real way that only the real world can teach them.
     
  11. McFuddy

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    I don’t think you fit in here.
     
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  12. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Kidding.

    Kinda.
     
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  13. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Harvard is about as liberal as a pack of wolves, and is famous for their lawyers and Wall Street movers. Even whether they give people grants is always a political issue, precisely because they are a political money making machine. No doubt, Forbes will run an article.
     
  14. 6-eyed shaman

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    I don't care about Kashuv or Hogg. Both teenagers built political careers on top of the bodies of their slain classmates.
     
  15. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    That's what they said about Julius Caesar. Vini Vidi Vichi, I came, I saw, I conquered. Last one out alive is a rotten egg.
     
  16. lode

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    I'm a liberal, but there's a hardcore ideological purity problem on extreme left, and this is another example of it. Apparently you have to be born woke. People can never change their opinions over time, and personal growth is impossible. If a kid said something racist when he was 16, he's doomed forever.

    Of course it was Harvard's decision to make, but they didn't make it in a vacuum.
     
  17. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    So we are not as important as we think we are? That is true. No one is jealous of us they are living their life.
     
  18. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    The altitude makes it really dry but it's otherwise pretty good. When I smoke I tend to not want to own things that kill people. Hippie shit I guess peace and love.
     
  19. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    a couch and a video game system will generally do the trick. and maybe some koolaid for the dry mouth. shit, that killed a bunch of people that one time...
     
  20. Adamskiffle

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    So.....what did he actually say?
     

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