Marxism.

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  1. Jimbee68

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    Karl Marx was a creep. He wanted to abolish the family because it seemed too bourgeoisie to him. He wanted to establish a totalitarian regime where the state owned all your property, so they could search your house anytime they liked. All while you were waiting for a perfect communistic utopia, that never came and never existed on the earth.

    No, democratic socialism is a much better idea. They have all the democratic freedoms, sometimes more. Ask Sweden. There are the most socialistic country in the world. And they also have the highest standard of living. That'd never work here in the US. But it does work.
     
  2. princess peedge

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    It was inherited wealth he was against, not the family unit.

    Marxism--like capitalism, communism, socialism, and most other isms--is great on paper. It's just ruined once greedy humans enter the equation.

    That said, I'm not sure true Marxism has ever been tried.
     
  3. Joshualooking2

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    I think you have to a functional government to have democratic socialism and ours is a reck.
     
  4. Tishomingo

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    At the moment.
     
  5. Joshualooking2

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    When was it not lol
     
  6. Tishomingo

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    Last year.
     
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  8. Joshualooking2

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    Our country problems existed before trump if that’s what you want to focus on that’s up to you. Me personally I want real change money out of politics, term limits for all elected officials, digital rights , actual protection of free speech not just of speech one party likes, end to funding and participation of war for resources pretending to be the hero of the world, ending the lobbiest cycle for politicians, getting corporations to take their boot of working people’s necks
     
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    I just want to say, as a citizen, yes, I agree with this wholeheartedly. But as a transgender person, none of this matters if my most basic human rights aren't protected first.

    Step one needs to be full equality and freedom for all Americans.
     
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    And the teaching of critical thinking to the young, making sure that the wealth of this country is not just for the few , making those left behind susceptible to the bullshit of a destructive, narcissistic liar.
     
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  11. Joshualooking2

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    Not trying to be a dick just honestly asking what rights do you believe You don’t have and are being violated just trying to be specific about what legally can change.
     
  12. princess peedge

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    The right to use the bathroom in public spaces; the right to travel freely with a passport; the right to employment and housing without being denied these things based on gender identity; the right of self-determination (what Americans love to call "liberty"); the right to trans-specific healthcare; for parents of trans youth, the right to parent their children as they see fit; the right of doctors to practice trans-specific medicine without fear of prosecution; protection from hate crimes.

    I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
     
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    Problems are an inherent aspect of reality. All governments, as human enterprises, fall short of perfection--plagued as they are by the usual human vices. Relatively speaking, I think the western democracies today have done the best job of providing the greatest happiness and general affluence for the greatest number of people of any in world history, and the U.S., for all its faults, has had the strongest economy in recent years and done the best job in fighting inflation of any country in the world--MAGA campaign rhetoric to the contrary. We're now in the throes of revolutionary change, and the differences between the two parties have never been greater. Somehow, I don't think the changes will be good for working people.
     
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    Down playing the problems and not fixing them is why the democrats lost the working class
     

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