Marijuana: Will it ever be legalized?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Activism' started by ghost.d0wn, Feb 27, 2006.

  1. ghost.d0wn

    ghost.d0wn Member

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    As the topic says, I'm wondering what you people have to say about this, honestly, do you guys think marijuana will be legalized?
     
  2. Greengirl

    Greengirl Senior Member

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    I hope so,but i have doubts about it....
    LEGALIZE POT!!!!!
     
  3. STON3R

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    well now that the NDP party has taken over the canadian gov't i seriously dout it will be any time soon. I dident like the Liberals but hey, they where they only ones considering legalization
     
  4. campfire-fly

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    I believe yes for several reasons.
    I believe as we develope alternative energies, as oil seeps out of the equation, there will be no reason for the U.S. Department of Treasury, which is over the anti-drug laws (it's really all about money), to keep marijuana illegal.

    Everything oil can be used for and is used for, marijuana could replace it cheaper, it's renewable, environmentally friendly, ect. We use oil for everything, carpets, plastic interrior car parts, road pavement, fabrics, plastics, ect. it all can be made with hemp but is not because of big money.

    We're cresting the big money wave here, which means there's an approaching opportunity in the renewable energy horizons just up ahead to bring marijuana back out of prohibition.

    They're working I think to push our economy as fast and as far as it can go on this oil frenzy right now, use it up while it's still valuable because renewable is coming. If there was this huge oil crisis, don't you think the gov would invest more in developing renewable energies?

    From what I've seen, it's all well planned out, but they have to keep us in crisis mode, it's in their best big money making interest. They are working to tap the oil resources before there's not a market for the oil anymore (I'm currently working as a journalist in a Western Oil Booming town - right in the belly of the beast so to speak).

    The next transitional era will be the lashback of this current selfish greed frenzied times. There's always a lashback, it's nature. Perhaps with mindful grassroots effort, America could learn to embrace marijuana to save the economy left in ruins in wake of our current excessive times. I'd like to see it as free as corn.

    Montana medcial marijuana laws allow those on the "list" of patients whose doctors have recommended marijuana consumption are allowed to have 10 plants growing at a time. That way there's no government involvment, no one's handing out marijuana or making money off of it.

    I'm currently writing a series of stories at work about how meth impacts people on a personal level and community. Though the fed gov. lists MJ as the nation's largest "drug problem" more and more state, county and city law enforcement agencies nation wide are understanding what a drug problem really is in dealing the the far reaching and ultra distrubting impacts of meth.

    Meth is the nation's largest drug problem; anyone who studies the stats can see that, along with anyone who works in social services, child / family service, law enforcement knows meth is the biggest problem facing America right now in reality. As they are experiencing what meth is doing, they are easing up on the pot. They are realizing from first hand dealing with the huge impacts of meth just how much marijuana consumption in and of itself is not a problem at all. THe only problem is it's illegal therefore a blackmarket trade has been created, which is in the interest in the government as they make TONS of money off of every level of the drug trade all the way from the international cartels to the local user levels. They use this dynamic always in their favor. (did anyone tell you the story of how the government turned crack loose in targeted areas of L.A. in the early 80s, the parts of history not included in the HBJ copies)

    All social agencies interviewed so far say Meth is the worst thing they have ever seen, the spot light keeps drifting.

    THe director of the coalition against domestic violence told me that in MANY cases victimized women will be sure to have a source of marijuana because it keeps the otherwise violent men clam, keeps them and their children from getting beat.

    The sheriff acknowledged to me, no they don't get calls like "my boyfriend just smoked a bunch of weed and beat me" doesn't happen, but go to any rural or even urban law enforcement agency and ask the weekly rate of calls such as "my boyfriend came home drunk and beat me" or "my boyfriend is strung out on meth and beat me" - you already know the relative answer.


    Busting people for smoking pot I believe has become less of a pirority not only because law enforcement is realizing it's not a problem in the first place, but also because they are too damn busy with significant increase in crime, thus work, a meth epidemic brings along with it as the nation's biggest problem.
    82 percent of counties report a 62 percent or higher increase in law enforcement work load related to meth and it's fall out crimes.

    Most state's with declared meth problems, such as Montana, have upto 95 percent of their drug enforcement budgets focusing on meth issues and 5 percent left for the rest of the drugs.


    The city of Denver is a good example of what I believe is example municipals will begin to follow. They have always been lax on weed. Local governments are learning marijuana's not a problem for the community like meth and alcohol are, marijuana is becoming more accepted socially across the board, and the only ones left that really care are the Feds who only care if you're making money off of it.

    If the pro-marijuana culture works a mindful grassroots effort toward progress, I believe within 10 years we will see the first wave of officials embracing marijuana in America.


    IF they brought alcohol back, there's no reason what so ever not to bring marijuana back in all logical arguements - that's my conclusion so far from the EXTENSIVE research I've done on these topics in my line of work.
     
  5. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    wow...you know your stuff...thats all i have to say
     
  6. PurpleGel

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    yes, marijuana will be legalized soon.
     
  7. Triumph Hurricane

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    NO = those cops and federal boys want too keep that groovy well paid job with all the full benefits chasing harmless pot smokers and sellers.
     
  8. PurpleGel

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    there will always be something they can chase after--it doesn't have to be marijuana.
     
  9. Triumph Hurricane

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    If you mean real criminals = Forget it!.
     
  10. rainbowedskylover

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    cops shoulda take those stupid glasses of their head and see pot is nothing but gooooood. i bet there are a lot of alcoholist in between the cops. stupid drinkers ;)
     
  11. Triumph Hurricane

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    The problem is most of them dont even have common sense.
     
  12. HotBox420

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    i believe once the "baby-boomers" age is out of office and the youger age group gets into office they will make it legal because when you compare it to alcohol, its just rediculous that they have alcohol legal and not marijuana. Alcohol is SO much stronger. Its just cause they can produce it and make their money off of it, thats all.
     
  13. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    i agree with Triumph Hurricane on a federal level it probably wont be made legal (alest not in our life time) and if it does i will be extremely surpirsed there is still a huge anti pot movment and the war on drugs is going full force toward marijuana, every month they have an article about how they aressted some huge grower, i dont think they are gaining any ground on the war on drugs but there definitly not showing a change in mind, on a state level there is definitly an improvment denver was a big win and there is a gain with medical marijuana in the last couple years being won, things are better.
     
  14. Triumph Hurricane

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    The sad part is when they went hard after pot in the early 80s they royally fuck up since Pot is 1 of the mildest drugs on earth . the columbians switch to coke out of that came crack and now meth so all they did was royally fuck everything up. and of course they are not going to give theyr well paid groovy jobs with benefits and extra holydays they rather stick us in concentration camp and gas us like the jews before they give up theyr job . Mean while millions die directly or semi directly from alcohol " vehicle accidents " pancrea & livers etc not too mention alcoholics who in general are loosers and dangerus when they get mean and nasty things that marijuana never does.
     
  15. callinghome

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    NDP are FOR marijuana legalization, and the conservatives have taken over not the ndp... jesus.
     
  16. BaiBye

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    not in the near future. in my country, the politicians who are against pot are the druglords who grow and sell it. making it legal will only make it cheaper. therefore, if it is illegal, it will be more expensive (because it is highly sought after). this is for the benefit of those pseudo-politician druglords. fuckers.
     
  17. Triumph Hurricane

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    Most of the law enforcement are not that old anymore "even tho many are pass theyr usefull age as cops and many are so fat they could not catch a 12 year old runing much less a real criminal . Cops in the 60s and 70s big city not those hicks in little rural U.S most did not bother fucking with pot smokers they had handle many nasty alcoholics and seen with theyr own eyes what a out of control drunk could do like "murder the entired family " or his best friend . Matter of fact cops knew most people smoke pot during a rock concert in the 60s and 70s and many hired cops to guard the doors . they never mess with the people inside. cops outside did not wait for concert goers to leave the concert to be attack by squads of cops like wolf packs german subs . THIS DAYS THEY DO. last open free concert i went "late 90s" look more like a correctional center . i left and promise never to return. taking all in count and even tho blacks had it rough in the 60s . Young and old had far more freedom in late 60s and 70s than today . by late 60s blacks in major citys could move about free of harrasments . not totally but at least in theyr hoods they were not mess with . today cops do as they please anywhere . the only people in the U.S the cops back off if you happen to have a conceal weapon license and carry a piece "gun" . and if show them you also know your laws and rights well they back off even more. "when you carry a gun".
     
  18. Triumph Hurricane

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    or a Judges wifes, cops wifes, cops sons and daughters, if you can mentions by names enough cops names as friends of yours, anyone who is related to court work. Other than you better look very Anglo and drive a very expensive vehicles "they are told not to mess with well off people. specially in there own gated comunity that have theyr own small police force.
     
  19. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    ahaah jesus christ man we didnt have more freedom back then an we dont have more freedom now the 70 where realy bad in some places, i know in my town the cops fucked with anyone they wanted my uncle was beat VERY badly by the police and they said he fail getting out of the car and hit his head on the door because he was drunk. cops arnt the problem the laws and government are the problem, scoeity is the problem, if this out look wasnt like this we wouldnt have a problem, its because people belive anything with a government stample or approvel and are to stuiped to think or they over think and become weird conspracy nuts. its a pretty simple philosophy plants should tbe made illegal and people are going to do this no matter what its a part of life
     
  20. Triumph Hurricane

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    The 70s were great here . the few cops who try to mess with us when we were teen were basicly bored . after 1 concert once they made us rip a ounce of weed in the ground "big deal as it was only $25.00 " and we were park in a odd spot away fom the main parking lot. Today that cop wont let you rip it in the ground he wants to jail you and what ever "beat or shot wouldn't take much this days .
     
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