Marijuana Usage

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Nathan11, Sep 3, 2004.

  1. Nathan11

    Nathan11 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I use marijuana on a regular basis for spiritual and mental ethical reasons. Tonight my friend of 4 years told me she doesn't even want to talk to me anymore. I explained to her that marijuana: helped me liberate myself from trying to be the people I hung out with, opened my heart to love, showed me my inner self, and freed my mind. She then replied to me with "I am so glad you found liberation in a chemical. Later!"
    How truley ignorant is that?
    Have you ever had anyone respond like that?
    What do you think of her reaction?
     
  2. northernlehigh97

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    I'm going to have to agree with her. Only because I've never done drugs. But if she was a true friend she still would be your friend. Different strokes for different folks.
     
  3. RoBoWaLkEr

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    Well Nathan, everyone's entitled to their beliefs. And that includes those who see any kind of drug usage as "wrong or bad". Some people just feel that way because they have formed their own genuine beliefs. Others, unfortunately, have had their mind made up for them by stereotypes and misinformation and those are the people that piss me off. I guess it's not their fault though...anyway, if she doesn't understand, and doesn't want to, and it's something you've accepted as being a part of your life then maybe you shouldn't be friends with her.
     
  4. Nathan11

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    But you see, cannabis isn't just a drug. I really believe it's a gift from the creator. I know it has helped me in more than one way in the past, and I know that cannabis is my 'spiritual muse.'
    I'm not sure if that makes since, but I hope you get it.
     
  5. purplesage

    purplesage Ah, fuck it...

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    You might have to explain to me why she was being ignorant.

    I can see why you would smoke to relax, but the things you're talking about are all about self-esteem. No outside substance is going to fix that permanently, it's only going to last as long as the effects last. High self-esteem and a feeling of self-confidence has to come from within if you want it to be permanent.

    I think that friend of yours just doesn't want to see you get hurt. She's a good friend.

    Just my opinion... I still love ya :)
     
  6. reefer121

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    man that sucks, some ppl just have to open their mind to others way of life
     
  7. gate68

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    Don't worry,be happy.Sounds like she kinda likes you,to worry about something that personal.Unfortunatly she doesn't like pot.Possibly she's keeping her distance to protect her feelings.Be a true friend and respect her for what she thinks.Love her anyway or quit smoking and chase her down.Pot's great,but it's not the absolute..
     
  8. charmain

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    If she was a friend, she would respect your wishes to smoke. Pot has for rhe most part, always been a part of my life. My parents smoked it throughout my whole childhood and I now love it. Don't think I would......I know I would never lay a trip on someone like she did on you. Do you want to give up something you like because someone says "hey, I don't like you doing that"


    Next she'll be telling you to put the seat down and when you can go to sleep............. oh, I don't like your other friend, it's them or me...it will go on and on. she thinks she is trying to help you. I don't know her but from here, FUCK HER in a loving caring way.

    Just one girls opinion.
     
  9. charmain

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    If she was a friend, she would respect your wishes to smoke. Pot has for rhe most part, always been a part of my life. My parents smoked it throughout my whole childhood and I now love it. Don't think I would......I know I would never lay a trip on someone like she did on you. Do you want to give up something you like because someone says "hey, I don't like you doing that"


    Next she'll be telling you to put the seat down and when you can go to sleep............. oh, I don't like your other friend, it's them or me...it will go on and on. she thinks she is trying to help you. I don't know her but from here, FUCK HER in a loving caring way.

    Just one girls opinion.
     
  10. Nathan11

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    Aye, I see what you're saying, but, I don't smoke to boost my self-esteem. Cannabis helped me to open my soul. The key word there is helped. You see, with or without cannabis in my system, the fact remains, it opened my soul. Does that make since?

    I hope so, because it makes since to me.:p
     
  11. Lodui

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    Theres nothing magical about the effects of marijuana, it acts on the CB1 and anandamide neurotransmitters causing the reaction you understand as high... it can be duplicated synthetically. However It does have some medical and therapeutic applications.

    I dunno about you' friend... did she say that she didn't wanna be your friend anymore after you had said you used pot, or did she say she didn't want to be friends and you said the pot thing... cause it changes the advice I'd give. If she said that after you were talking about pot, she might just be worried about you... maybe she has some drug problems in her family or maybe she doesn't really understand the effects of marijuana... give her a few days and explain to her that you find marijuana to be soothing, and its in no way running your life, and ask her if something else is bothering her.

    If just came out of the blue and said she doesn't wanna be your friend, I dunno what to tell, you. Could be some deeper unrelated issues, and I wouldn't let it bother you too much... just give her some space.
     
  12. MirakulouslyDead

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    This girl your talking about and seemingly most of the others posting in this thread and all around this site are only closed minded and geniunely honest in their robotic views on these things. Don't worry about all these people. All we can try to do is spread the light and try and show the way to these people. You understand what "drugs", in this case the herb has done for you. You just have to know that others are unable of comprehending these things. These rays of energy reach many, unfortunatly far too, few for reasons we understand. Others are untouched by this energy and spirit. Hence the idea of EXPANSION. Misinformation, conformity, and little minds are hard to deal with after you've moved past these things but we are forced to deal with it in frightening numbers daily! Luckily, long gone are those days for myself.

    Lodui suffers from the typical dillusions of grandeur. Lodui can explain life! haha the Spirit is hurt but agrees it all comes. EVERYONE will meet the spirit at one time or another. Ugly for some, obviously.
     
  13. purplesage

    purplesage Ah, fuck it...

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    Sorry but I don't agree that Nathan's friend or anyone on this thread is being closed-minded or robotic.

    It all lies in the motivations behind taking drugs if you ask me.

    If marijuana is used for recreational reasons like spiritual enlightenment or relaxation, then fine. I have to admit I don't understand the spiritual enlightenment part so I will not comment on that.

    But when people use drugs to face the problems in everyday life then it's a different matter IMO. I'm not saying Nathan is necessarily doing this, but it sounded like it in the original post.
     
  14. Sugar Magnolia

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    I smoke weed everyday and i don't see anything wrong with it at all. but what i've learned from other peoples reactions is that no matter how hard you try you can't make them understand. everyone smokes for their own personal reasons and if smoking makes you feel good and open then go for it. if your friend can't accept you for how you feel, who you are and what you do then she's not really a friend anyway. i tell people i'm not hurting anyone by doing it so what's the big deal. and it's not like it's such a mind altering drug that you can't function or talk to people or like it changes who you are. i know i'm the same person whether i'm high or not. when i was in high school i remember this girl talking about this one guy and she was like, "oh my god, he smokes weed every single day...sometimes more than once!" i think it's funny bc i feel so strongly that it's perfectly fine. just know that you can't make someone that doesn't smoke understand why you smoke and you don't need someone that will be close minded and judgemental. keep doing what you're doing if it makes you happy!
     
  15. MirakulouslyDead

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    fortunatly, I need no agreement. Cannabis, as with any "drug" is not used recreationally by choice or possibility by this cat.

    If life wasn't lived so backwards by mainstream society nobody would be seeing "drugs" this way. Rays of energy reach some and to others it is incomprehensible for they're untouched.

    MANY, MANY steps to be taken by the human race here on Earth and smoking herb sure can help. It doesn't change you for the better unless you want it to. Why not move yourself & take a look at yourself and everything around you from other views?

    Fine Line ~~ Drug use leaps you forward. Misuse knocks you down and throws you back.

    Closed minds cannot understand themselves. Why do you think the world is so fucked up in destructive, chaotic ignorance? If you can't even understand yourself, how can you understand anything else. If you don't understand how can you live?

    Don't hear this. Listen. Bless yourself.
     
  16. BraveSirRubin

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    You must be a truly weak person. You needed a drug inorder to open your mind to things that are obvious to a person with intellegence and inner stregth.
     
  17. MirakulouslyDead

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    oh so sorry for the lost souls that glide through this existance with their "intelligence"

    Sky still loves them all!
     
  18. MirakulouslyDead

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    The Spirit burns with pain for these who don't realize themselves
     
  19. purplesage

    purplesage Ah, fuck it...

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    We can all be as "I'm allright Jack" as we want to be, but at some point let's hope to God that we all have a threshold where it becomes apparent to us that we are all in this life together, and that it's time to reach out and give a helping hand to another person.

    Obviously this is an extreme example but could that be why there were so many famous deaths as the 70's rolled around? Because everyone was so absorbed by their own trip? A theory...

    If this means I'm closed-minded... so what.
     
  20. MirakulouslyDead

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    i don't really understand what youre sayin right here. i get the 2nd thing about the 70's thing but not the first. everyone do their own thing. eventually, it will all make sense to everyone whether they'd like to know or not. and for all these who deny to wake up to the complexity of life and for those who deny the greater forces at work it's sad, sad, sad goings.

    Life is simple; a transfer of energy. People live the way they do, killing and eating animals that were pumped full of shit to make them swell up with fat to be put on hamburgers. whowever eats this or touches it in any way receives the sickening energy. small example of many. people wonder about cancers? :) people destroy the earth in nearly everything they do. take, take, take. people hurt other people. people do so many things and bring nothing but negative energy into their soul. it's no wonder!

    "drugs" are no doubt an extremely powerful and purposeful exchange of energy. you use them and you choose to be blessed. you misuse them and ....well, you know.
     

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