Marijuana Substitute?

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Icarium, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. Icarium

    Icarium Member

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    I've seen various "substitutes" or "alternatives" for sale on the web, and was curious to know if one were to try them out, is there any risk of testing positive on a drug screen?

    I've read the FAQ, and was wondering if anyone had more info/experience.

    Some of the stuff I'm reading about has things like wild dagga and scotch broom topps with damiana, and Avena Sativa and Valarian, Kava Kava and I haven't a clue if there is a risk of even a false positive with any of these things.

    I recently tested positive, and am on a 2 year random test probation. I'm giving up the bud for the time being, but was wondering if there was something else out there that would give me a bit of a buzz, in the same fashion as bud, without running the risk of failing a random check. The checks test for THC, PCP, COC, OPI, AMP. (Yeah, I know...what's left?!? ;) )

    Thanks.

    Any info would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    If you want something off the web, go for Kratom. Do some research on that shit. I have heard lots of good things about it. Mainly the extract resin. Also, look into Wild Dagga.
     
  3. mellow

    mellow Eased

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    I know medium doses of smoked Amanita Muscaria is said to have effects similar to ganja.
     
  4. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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  5. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I've smoked Amanita Muscaria and didn't feel shit from it. I still want to try the extract though. Maybe I just didn't feel anything because of the batch I had. I heard potency varies significantly from batch to batch; where they come from and what part of the year they were harvested apparently has a lot to do with it.
     
  6. snoopdogg

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    does salvia show up? cuz ive heard that shits pretty cool
     
  7. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    nah, salvia won't show up, but I don't think he is looking for anything like that. I think he just wants something to chill with.
     
  8. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    You can chill with Saliva if you can handle the intense trip first. For about 30-40 minutes after the trip I feel stoned, very similair to marijuana.
     
  9. Icarium

    Icarium Member

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    And what's the initial trip like?

    And does anyone know if it's available in/near Edmonton, AB, Can? ;)
     
  10. Sezzy

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    the initial trip is like a roller coaster ride on the rails of your soul through a vast area void of existence, except for the barriers of your emotions which batter your psyche as you blast through, unless you know how to duck ;)... u have to try it to understand, erhmm but beware
     
  11. ~Baked Goods~

    ~Baked Goods~ Senior Member

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    damn straight. My first salvia trip was like going on a weird as rolleer coaster through hell
     
  12. Grapefruity

    Grapefruity Sunny Side Up

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    thats because you didnt duck ;p
     
  13. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    My first salvia experience made me feel immaterialism then nonexistence, in that order.

    It should be available most places. It's legal in the US and can be found at headshops and metaphysical shops.
     
  14. shockseventyfour

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    Salvias nuts. Awesome stuff though. If your looking for stuff to chill with though, go for kratom. IT is a bit more pricey then bud though, unfortunately. GEt extract definitely. I'm trying out sinicuichi next week, too. Blue Lotus is alright but i wouldnt spend money on it.
     
  15. Blakkout

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    When I did Salvia, right after my initial hit, I was shot back in my chair. It felt like something was pushng me down onto my back. But my sense of direction changed too, (so like laying down on my back, I thought that straight out where my feet were was down, etc.) Then I thought my feet were dangling in water. This was all in about the first 5-10 seconds, and it only got more intense. I could type this story all night, but the point is Salvia is some intense shit...
     
  16. Sabby

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    I bought an ounce of Salvia and smoked it all within one night (Split between two people, actually...) Neither of us even began to get high.

    Maybe it just varies from person to person?
     
  17. TheRosesAreFree

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    an ounce?? Thats ridiculous. A friend and I bought a gram and each took a pretty big bong load. I thought the room was slowly spinning around me, kinda like I was in a washing machine. My buddy suddenly got up, ran out my door, across the street and jumped into the Chippewa River. It was funny cause he had his cellphone, keys, wallet, and pipe in his pocket.
     
  18. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I'm sure you used the regular leaf. You need to get an extract.
     
  19. Grapefruity

    Grapefruity Sunny Side Up

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  20. gaum

    gaum Elephant Orgy

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    yea^^
     

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