Man, this really gets my nuts

http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/the-influence/drugs-marijuana.htm

it says "Smoking marijuana also causes some changes in the brain similar to those caused by long-term use of cocaine and heroin"

are they fucking seriouse? are complete retards...dont mean to nag but damn i just needed to post this.


AND it also says "Teens age 12 to 17 who regularly smoke marijuana were shown to be three times more likely than non-users to have suicidal thoughts."

IMO when smoking all they think about is whats in the fridge and how much bud they have left

 

Okay, here's a FACT. Oh, and don't rely on finding this easily as many people would rather stick there head in the sand and forget about it. Ready?

Alchohol kills more people than weed, heroin, and cocain..... COMBINED.

Why is that legal?

 

To the suicidal pot smoking statistic: Correlation does not imply causation. The people who run the anti-drug campaign are aware of this, and they simply use the correlation as propganda. To the uninformed masses, it seems like they're saying smoking marijuana causes it, but they are covering their asses and just pointing out the correlation. If you want to get mad, get mad at the common citizen who doesn't realize the difference.

As to alcohol killing more people than illegal drugs: Do you think that the legality of alcohol has something to do with it's high body count? I imagine that if heroin and alcohol had the same legal status, we'd have a skyrocketed number of heroin deaths. So high, in fact, that they would easily outnumber the alcohol related deaths. People won't be safe with dangerous substances just because they have the potential for responsible use.

 

honestly, surveys are fucking complete bullshit. so many variables and everything, like you said, correlation doesn't mean causation... fuckin retarded

 

I think the reason that alcohol addiction is so widespread is because of it's promotion rather than it's existance.

Think about the way way alcohol is marketed. You can't have a good time without it, you'll always have fine looking babes around, have lots of friends, and party at the beach (even though to do so is illegal in most area's and glass bottles where people walk around barefoot what's up with that?).
Never ads where people get drunk and cause carnage on the highways, beat their wives/kids in drunken rages, shoot people, spend food/rent $$ and/or commit crimes to fuel their addiction.
Pay attention the the ads. They market beer as not just something to drink when you're thirsty, but something you need at least 3 bottles of for the successfull/babe magnet to kick in. 3 beers a sitting is a wonderful way to build up an addiction.
In Calif., you can buy beer at gas stations. Whenever a lawmaker see's the foolishness of this and wants it stopped (booze at gas stations), the powerful liquor lobby makes sure it doesn't happen.
The liquor lobby also contributes thousands of $$ to anti-pot politicians to keep pot illegal.

The liquor lobby says they don't promote anti-social behaviour by their "know when to say when" ads, but they obviously realize that one on the first things alcohol does is take away the ability to know when to say when.

 

i have to disagree with that if heroin was legal there would probably be a decrease if anything, most heroin overdoses are becuase of unknown purity and potancy, if the heroin is more pure and the user doesnt know it (which most of the time he doesnt) and he shots the same amount as he always does he may die because it was actuly much stronger then he thought. if heroin was legal there would be standerized doses and things would be labeld. also another problem is heroin getting cut with harmful chemicals there was a problem with people dieing in CT,NY area because the heroin was cut with some that was killing people, another problem that could be solved if it was legal.

the facts these site give ARE true, but misleading. "Smoking marijuana also causes some changes in the brain similar to those caused by long-term use of cocaine and heroin" this quotes realy says nothing it doesnt say what the changes are as far as i know they are positive, they also say some which is very vage, also the way this is stated how much marijuana will casue these changes. you just have to read whats in front of you and think about it when i look for drug facts i look for details because the more specific the info is the better and more truthful the info is. also remeber what angle these people are coming from they are anti-drug so of corse they are going to try and make you think that way.

the fact that alcohol has a higher body count realy doesnt mean shit, its in our culture and as been accepted, illegal drugs are veiwed as evil and will continued to be veiwed as such.

 

Aint that the truth

 

i wouldnt say its general...

but i would never have had suicidal thought like i have had before if i had not smoked weed. I stopped for a while and it quickly went away along with my depression, with a little help or meds which i had been taking for a few months but the weed was just fuckin it up until i stopped

its just unstable people

 

Um, just wondering, but are you a doctor, are you a scientist, can you prove to me that marijuana doesn't change the brain?

 

These websites stretch the truth, but marijuana is harmful, it is a drug.

 

His point is that they make it sound 10x worse than it really is...thats all.

 

Can you prove to me how its harmful? Deaths, real health problem statistics, unflawed studies, are a few of the things you'll have fun trying to find.

 

Just because attractive people and parties are in the commercial doesn't mean you have to use their product. I've seen many vacuuming commercials with attractive models.. And yet.. I haven’t bought 7 vacuums.

The gas station.. Another name CONVENIENT STORE. These things are here for out convenience. To make the common man's life easier. Drunk driving is illegal and for many great reasons. Does that mean they can't sell it at places you drive you car too? Should they stop selling at grocery stores too because most people drive there too?

You have to understand that the product is the responsibility for the user. If someone needs 3 bears to have a good time then that is their problem. I know many people who are fine with 1 or 2, even people who don't need alcohol to have a good time. Most companies selling liquor do try to promote safe use of their product. They obviously don't want people to die. That cuts into the profit margins.

You can't blame all these corporations for the stupid things people do. While I'm not a huge supporter of these alcohol corporations, I’m also not a huge supporter or ignorance.

 

most uneducated statement i've heard...do they have an e-mail addy i can send something to?

 

when ever i see shitlike that now a days i just ignore it, i dont even consider weed a drug to be a drug in my book you have to die from an overdose and it has to be addicting.

 

Well, I can't say with absolute certainty that marijuana is permanently harmful, I do know that it's smoke contains some of the same carcinogens as in tobacco, and without filters they are more concentrated. I also know that they impair your reactions, making driving dangerous.

 

Everybody knows that weed aint terribly bad. Comparing it to heroin and coke just makes harder drugs seem more acceptable.

 

I know its not that bad comparably, but it is still dangerous.

 

Do you notice that there is only 2 organizations that are the very large majority of their sources of facts? Interesting..

 

well i guess the sad truth is that all that propaganda is funded and pushed by the cold hearted capitalists in charge of the tobacco and alcohol companies. They want you in jail for smoking sweet herb, but we let child molesters get off the hook for a price. I find it fucking fowl that they say "marijuana smokers are 75% more likely to make d's in school) Who really gives a fuck? it just keeps rubbing in the fact to americans that they need to go to a bullshit ass school to be something in life. And what the hell was up with the suicide statistic? Ive never known a stoner to want to kill themselves. They are almost always peaceful, creative, kind, calm and content.
This fowl propaganda relies on anyone that is a slave to the american system to believe it. We are one nation under god, but god never wanted cannabis in his land when in the Genesis 1:13 it says "and i give unto you all the plants and herbs to use.."
But Big Brother capitalist uncle sam says its bad. (im not a christian, but that is what the christian scriptures read). Ahh, mankind has strayed so far from what it actually real. Ganja Freedom!