I am sure you have all seen those "Marriage = (man symbol)+(woman symbol)" bumper stickers before. Well I requested on from CBN. (CBN is run by the squinty-eyed hate monger millionaire bastard known as Pat Robertson. He has said ridiculous and hateful things against liberals and homosexuals, completely disragarding the teachings of the religion he supposedly follows) Here's why I requested th sticker (and maybe you'll want to, also): They pay to send it, it's free, AND they enclose a prepaid mailing envelope (because with the sticker they ask for money to share the word of our lord and savior Flying Spag-- uh, Jesus Christ). Soooo www.cbn.com/special/marriageamendment/ click that, get your free sticker, alter it, and send them a letter stating why spreading hate is not a good idea. And they pay for all of it. Any good letter ideas? Here is what it looks like (I cut off the 700 Club CBN logo)i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/Vegpami/CIMG1592.jp g All people deserve basic rights and being told whom to love violates those rights. Peace to you and tell me what you think
Yeah, I've seen those on cars before. Never in my city, though....they'd get ripped off pretty quickly.
. That is the coolest idea! Please allow me to add to it. When you receive your sticker don't throw it away. Heavens no! And DO NOT peal the backing off. But do cut out the little man and woman figures. Then, when you see a car that has one of these ridiculous stickers on the bumper, cover up either the man or woman as I have shown in the manipulated photo below. Note, to easily peal off the backing after you have cut out the figure, bend a tiny part of a corner back, this will separate the backing from the sticker so you can peal them. Remember to wipe/clean off the bumper sticker before you apply your addition. More than likely the person who puts the sticker on their car will never notice your improvement! .
I think it'd be funny to get CBN's "contact us" email and use it on a gay porn web site as a contact email
@hipunk: What a great idea! I've never seen these stickers around here and I know I should be happy to live in a more tolerant environment than a lot of you guys, but I would SO love to manipulate one of these stickers.
As much as I dislike closeminded people, and their bumper stickers, I just wouldn't touch them. Ignore it.. Someone ripped off my kerry/edwards sticker during the election last year and it is sad that people have to go to destruction to show their opinions. If someone has a bumper sticker like this, chances are more than likely that they will not change their stance. Destructive habits like this surely are not going to change their opinion, and will probably end up making it stronger.
. That depends on why you want to deface the sticker. I would never expect to change the person's mind who has that sicker on his car. But they have used their bumper to advertise, just like a bill board. It is out in the public. Yeah, it's illegal to deface their sticker. So what? If you're going to go in public and air your mindless homophobia, you get what you deserve. Yeah, you have a right to get up on a soapbox and shout your hatred in the park. But I also have a right to heckle you, damn it! When I was in high-school, a dude slapped a sign on my back that said "loser." That pissed me off! The next day he was walking down the hall with a sicker that said "Kick me." I wasn't the only one rolling on the floor. He deserved it. And as far as I'm concerned, the CBN has declared war on the GLBT community. All's fair. .
well my idea was to manipulate it by just colouring a big heart over the guy and girl and putting it on my own car. I have already made preprinted leaflets to people who have these on their car, courtesy of a person on the vegan forum I frequent: I saw your bumper sticker and politely ask you to please not pollute public space with fossil social trash. Marriage is about love, not genital configuration.
I wouldn't rip off any bumper stickers, personally... But last year, there was a string of people destroying conserative signs and ripping off Bush stickers....it made me feel proud. Not that Kerry was any better, but hey...
I agree with txbarefooter. LOL I'm conflicted by issues like this. On one hand, I don't really feel that any hostile action would do any good. By acknowleging them, you are only giving them power by saying that there opinion has any affect on you whatsoever. I mean, the KKK aren't marginalized now because they were discriminated against, they are marginalized because no one takes them seriously anymore. I think that if we as a community break the stereotypes that we are evil and just simply live as we would normally do, then people will eventually have no logical arguments against us. On the other hand, I feel that "by any means necessary" spirit rising up in me, and I just believe we need to establish ourselves as a force to contend with. The first is probably the most effective. From personal experience, I am a lot more respected for my views because I don't go around screaming them in everyone's faces. Then, when I do have a point to make, it is given extra attention. As for the CBN and conservative Christianity, that beast will kill itself.
here's my letter to them Dear CBN, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for sending me my free bumper sticker supporting the sanctity of marriage. Now I can spread my message and make a difference! I altered it only slightly. I colored a large heart over the male and female figures. Now it says “Marriage= Love”. I am not sure what translation of the Bible is used for reference at CBN, but in the ones that I have read, Jesus Christ taught a message of peace, compassion, love, and tolerance. I didn’t read anywhere in there where He said it was acceptable to spread hateful messages calling for the denying of basic human rights. Two people have the right to love one another, be respected, and have their love honored- regardless of whether or not one of those people has male or female genitalia, and regardless of what your network, Pat Robertson, or any other member of your klan thinks about it. Speaking of Pat, he is a despicable human being and a disgrace to the religion of Christianity. He makes all Christians look hateful and insane. Whether he is calling for the assassination of foreign presidents (and then later lying about it) like he did this year, or preaching sexism (I am sure you all remember the 1992 quote where Pat mentioned that feminism leads women to, amongst other things, kill their children, practice witchcraft and become lesbians), or playing God (referring to the loving message he sent to the people of Dover, PA to not ask for God‘s help in the event of a natural disaster- something that is entirely not his place to dictate) he is making a great example. That example is what NOT to be. That example is what compassion, peace, and love are NOT all about. If such unabashedly hateful people like Pat Robertson go to heaven when they die, then I would hate to imagine what the twisted God who allowed him in would be like. This message is not to change your opinions. It is obvious to me that CBN is a lost cause when referring to logic or ethics. The aim of this letter is to let you know that not everyone is like you, that there are good people out there, and that we won’t stand for such thinly-disguised hate propaganda. Thank you for paying for my sticker, paying the postage to send it to me, and paying for me to send you this letter.
Seriously, Even though Marriage is (so far in most places) always One Man + One Woman, I dont see these bumper stickers as a cool way to express your observation of this. Whats much more retarded than that would be ripping them off or defacing peoples cars etc. If you run a 'counter sticker' then really your just as silly as the guy with the original one. Yes, I was once tempted to pull a guy out of his car and punch him in the face for his antichristian sticker portraying a Christian symbol made to look like a Darwin fish. STill.. thats not cool. You better to just ignore it or simply talk to them - vandalising is lame.
I've ordered stuff from them before. I don't use the stickers, I just have them in kind of a "collection" of mine. I do send back the Business Reply Envelopes, filled with random stuff I find. Personally, I've only seen one car that actually had the sticker on. I felt like keying the car, but I didn't. As much as I hate what they say, they have the right to freedom of speech.
Yes, I was once tempted to pull a guy out of his car and punch him in the face for his antichristian sticker portraying a Christian symbol made to look like a Darwin fish. why? because the fish evolved? you should see the pompous shit Christians put on their cars here.
Well its a little 'fuck you' to Christians is why. Its like the 'Spaghetti Monster' ... errr. 'Joke' in that its actually a joke on the person using it. In this case, not a single legitimate full-fledged naturalist antichristian Evolutionist in the last fifty years would be able to call himself a Darwinist without being howled at with laughter. Its still a 'Fuck you and im gonna make you watch me deface your sacred symbol'. If I saw a Star of David with a little St.Paul pissing on it - I would know that was also a real scumbag too. Anyways: The symbol of the fish - The fish symbol was created using the Greek letters which spell out ICTHUS : Jesus Christ God's Son Saviour. ICTHUS also means fish - so the fish symbol was used when the early church was being persecuted. This was a secret sign scratched on the walls of buildings or drawn on the floor in the sand, to tell people where a Christian meeting was being held. So if you want to .. lmfao.. put a Darwin emblem then fine - but your a shit for mocking someones holy symbols. Later one came out which was an ICTHUS actually eating the 'Darwin Fish'. I really dont care what you think is 'Pompous' or not because If I put a picture of your Mother on my bumper with a little picture of me giving her the finger - thats an asshole thing to do. Same as the Darwin fish thing really. Anyways.. fortunately for him I realised that it shows what a desperate lowlife his belief system really is. I also had jussst enough Holy Spirit in me to keep from slapping him right in the middle of an intersection.
You seem to be pretty angry. Like, overly angry. Know what makes me angry? People imposing their beliefs on others at completely inapproptriate times. When I am at work, coming up to me out of nowhere (unprovoked) to tell me how Jesus is the saviour of the world is not the time, nor the place to do it. And this happens about 4 times a week. (and there are crazies from the church that come down on Saturdays, stand at the intersection, pawn their kids to hold up signs and scream-yes, scream- at people in their cars how they are going to hell). That is one reason why I am sick of people like this. No logic, nothing except an antiquated book that talks about how to raise cattle and treat your women (poorly, might I add. Read the verse about rape, the rapist has to pay daddy some silver, then marry the girl he raped). But, they are going to heaven so no logical argument is neccessary. Of coure not all people are like this. But many are, and therefore I would have no problems putting a Darwin fish on my car.
Are you saying I should be happy that people do the behaviours above, even though it encroaches on my rights? I do not violent action against them, I don't think that's a way to change minds. I am a pretty open minded person, but I refuse to take verbal assault or harrassment lying down. Regarding bumper stickers- say what you want but if it spreads hate, as this original post was about, you can't expect people to not do something about it.
People take things too seriously. The Darwin fish is a clever parody of a holy symbol. I remember Lewis Black said that religion are politics are fine, but they become extremist when their followers lose their sense of humor. If someone portrayed a pagan symbol mockingly on their car, I would probably laugh, as long as it wasn't just hateful. St. Paul pissing on the Star of David is malicious--it portrays someone destroying a sacred symbol and has no value as a piece of humor to top it off. A Darwin fish is just a play on a symbol to represent the Darwinist concept of a fish evolving into land-walking animals. It is not trying to destroy the Christian symbol, just borrow it as a springboard for humor. The ICTHUS swallowing the Darwin fish is also humorous, because although it destroys the Darwin symbol, it is mocking the Darwinian belief in survival of the fittest. It is not a hateful image. Religions have borrowed off of each other's symbols forever to create their own. Christians have done it as well. The pentogram is a religious symbol for both Christians and Wiccans because both religions have borrowed the symbol from a previous source. I see no difference between this act and the Darwin fish borrowing the Christian symbol. People need to lighten up. There's a point where one can become too politically correct. But, as the original intent of this post would show, the CBN bumper stickers certainly are hateful in their intent, and express no humor.