Main cause of U.S. recession?

Is it the war, high interest rates, illegal immigrants?? (ETC)

 

it's all fabricated.
set-up.
manipulated.
staged.

 

Exporting all of our manufacturing capability to China, etc. All in the search for ever cheaper crap, most of which we don't need.

 

Main cause of US recession.Well look on the bright side the rich are getting richer.Is'nt that what Bush and Cheney set to accomplish.They did a mighty good job.The problem is to many people protest on the internet,which is does nothing.Many Americans are just stupid and lazythats the ONLY reason that subhuman Bush administration is not sitting collectively in a jail now.

 

I can't see where illegal imigrants would affect it. They've been with those of us in California for decades if not forever.

I think the main causitive factor is the increasing power of and protections provided for multi-national corporations, and an overemphasis that the consumer price index or Dow, Nasdaq, etc. is a measure of what a society actually is or will become.

Face it folks the bottom line is the only thing the business world is interested in. How does our current administration respond to every societal threat or problem, they tell us to keep spending. That should make their true motives totally obvious. We are sold the tale that a free market will save us all. But what they fail to explain is that the reduction of oversight, regulation and sane business practices leads to a wild west type speculative, canabalistic atmosphere that benefits neither the infrastructure or security of any nation.

Multi-national/global business has no loyalty and feels no responsibility for any nation. Their only loyalty lies with their bottomline. Why do we protect them?

 

Corporate America loves illegal immigrants.Illegal immigrants are nothing but a burden on the country in every way possible.Any 'competent' administration would deport all of them,and put anyone who rents or sells an apartment or employs them in jail.Look at it this way Bush likes illegals.Nuff said.

 

Perhaps instead of trying to prevent illegal immigration, we should try to revise the laws and prevent them from receiving aid and protections sanctioned by our government. Think about it if the employers of illegal workers had the sole responsibility for their housing, health care, education of their children, etc. would this be such an attractive alternative. If illegal workers came here knowing that there was no free aid available to them, that all they would receive would be what the employer would provide them, how many of them do you think would still choose this? And we wouldn't have to build fences or hire more border guards.

It's another case of government subsidizing poor business practices.

 

It's a number of things combined, but the fact is the entire system is manipulated. Everything is manipulated towards a certain outcome. They are deliberately flooding the country with people from Mexico. They are deliberately destroying the dollar. They are deliberately outsourcing to China. When you combine all this and realize that it's not simply by mere conincidence, you get an idea of what's going on. This country was long ago targeted from within to be brought down, and that is just what is happening.

 

They deserve to live here. But not to take all our jobs. And for bush yeah he put us in the crap were in now with his stupid war to kill the people we love he doesnt care about us just wants to make himself happier with killing ppl for his pleasure.

 

But since Bush has been in office, he has decided to completely ignore the country's immigration laws, so we have seen a massive increase in people entering the country unchecked in just the past 7-8 years alone. It certainly did not start with Bush, but it most certainly escalated under his being in office. So yes, illegal immigration is having a huge negative affect on the economy.

When you want to erase the borders as Bush and his CFR handlers want, you must first work to erase the distinction of there being borders. So what they do is create the problem of allowing mass numbers of people who cannot easily assimilate to flood into the country. This creates the reaction to justify the solution, which is, "well, there are already so many here. We can't send them back, so we might as well make them legal and open to the same benefits as US citizens." That sets the precedent for anyone to come here, knowing they will be made legal. That is exactly what they want -- the free flow of goods AND services.

 

I agree with "Pressed Rat" on this.They ONLY right illegal immigrants have is a one way ticket out of the USA.There are over 12 million in the US now.Remember were are not talking about legal immigrants.Australia had a big problem with legal immigration awhile ago,they fixed it because it was a disaster.And Australia has 1 tenth the population of the US.Thats why Obama and McCain are pathetic because they have not addressed this massive problem properly.

 

Try 20 million. 12 million is an old number. Some estimates say between 20 and 30 million.

 

At least 20 million illegal aliens in the US.Many fairly large countries have smaller TOTAL populations.Its amazing the problem has gotten so big.No democratic country would allow this,except the US.I'm not a fan of the media,but the Lou Dobbs show on CNN is good,it highlights what a bad situation this is,and he is very fair and honest.This is not a democrat or republican issue anymore,its an emergency and something must be done SOON!

 

the problem has been discussed

the solution is

to try and buy local produce/ goods

vote out governments who destroy local industry

i have stopped buying junk from china , because it really is junk, the "product" only looks as if it will do the job. in the end you save money by buying that doesn't work anyway so you would have been off buying something made locally anyway.

there is no value in buying something that doesn't work and takes away employment from your own family and community.

the idea of removing local industry is that you can take away employment of local people thus preserving the strength of the currency (yes they really do think this works). they call the destruction of western manufacturing competition.

if you vote properly you effectively cut the head off the snake before it can do more damage to your way of life, if you spend your dollars on stuff that weakens your lifestyle then you can expect to spend the rest of your life in poverty.

 

Ask all the current presidential candidates what they know of the SPP.

http://www.spp.gov/prosperity_agenda/index.asp?dName=prosperity_agenda

 

Yea, what a proven evil that has turned out to be.


That and the Amero and the NaftaSuperHiway,



Did anyone catch the last episode of America's Ports, On National Geographic Channel.
24-7 they were unloading FULL containers from China and reloading Empty containers, one crane operator stated "thats OUR biggest export, air"

 

A lack of real leadership and any sense of which way to go!

 

I think it is because of the money lenders feeding on poor people (sub prime market). Now, the shit has hit the fan as none of them can afford the repayments. It was a recipe for disaster, with the luxury of hindsight.
Every country is suffering.

 

Because we haven't felt the effects of it personally yet doesn't mean that our congress is not allowing private business interests to set policy behind closed doors, with little or no oversight. Policies that will be felt in the future. I find it strange that we now need passports in order to travel into Canada and Mexico. We never needed to before the formation of the SPP.

From their Myths vs Fact page:

By their own admission it's being paid for with the taxpayer dollar. Why does congress and the current presidential candidates seem to be unaware of it's existence? We've been promised benefits by this administration in the past.

What have the benefits we were promised by Clinton from Nafta proven to be? From what I've read nothing. Yet we feel it necessary to expand the scope of Nafta through the formation of the SPP?

 

Are you aware of the meeting that took place in April?

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/15/8304/