I've a decent of knowledge on lucy through the use of the interwebz. Done it probably 20-25 times, in doses up to 10-strips. I've come across decent stuff to crazy-shit-blowing-my-mind into-some-kinda-other-earth-realm stuff with rainbows on the blotter paper as well. obviously shrooms potency depends on the "strain" and how well it may have been grown. but for acid, from what I've learnt, lysergic acid diethylamide is always gonna be lysergic acid dethylamide. Besides dosage per tab/drops or however its administered, does purity/potency only depend on how it's been kept and stored since its creation? Or is the way its synthesized a factor for potency? I've found people saying the purity due to storage, so I'm wondering if it's only that or not.
this is a hairy topic. i'm gonna answer your specific question and hope this thread doesn't get too stupid. purity/potency can depend on how the LSD is synthesized. if the chemical reaction gives a yield of 90% then 100 ug of LSD is actually 90 ug LSD + 10 ug of impurities (which are likely inactive, but there seems to be a lot of debate here). if the yield was 83%, then it's only 83 ug. i don't think very many people know the purity of their LSD, so i'm sure that terms like "needlepoint" and "fluff" get thrown around a bit, even if they are supposed to mean something. )they are supposedly levels of purity)
ah ok. thanks. I'll make sure not to get too stupid. are impurities always separated or do they come along in with LSD bought from your local dealer/friend? (meaning, if a friend says with a fair amount of certainty or confirmation that a tab might have say 100 ug or 250 ug, does that include impurities as well or not?)
my guess is that the LSD we get always has some level of impurities. if a hit is supposed to be 100 ug, it's highly likely that it's ~97 ug at best, with a little impurity. no chemical reaction gives a 100% yield. if impurities are removed, that's like a washing step in the synthesis..to make it more pure. a good LSD chemist will attempt to remove as much of the impurities as possible.
ok so potency is still basically determined by the amount of actual lsd on the tab (since tabs can possibly still include some impurities even after washing)? just trying to understand why I get double-dose 250 ug tabs and they're alright then I get some other tabs that aren't double-dose (so I'll take a standard dose of 2) and I'll just be totally mind fucked like no other lucy I've had before. oh and thanks voyage for the erowid link, interesting article
Sure thing, glad if it's helpful. As for your question, my guess is "double dose" is some sales bullshit trying to make some weak tabs sound awesome, and the other tabs are just plain run of the mill 60-100ug tabs. There are no double dip blotters. That's not how L is layed. Take 2 of your usual hits and you've got a good roughly 100-250ug experience, your so called doubles are probably just normal average hits, 60 to 100 maybe. That's my guess.
but what about tabs like Orange Sunshine (from Brotherhood of Eternal Love)? Those were 300 ug back in the day. I assume they could still put 250 ug on a tab?
They could, but if it feels like 50 micrograms, it doesn't matter if they say it's 250. It's still 50. The fact is, almost nobody layed the blotter they're selling, or even knows who did. If they did, they still didn't dissolve the crystal, and if they did, they still didn't make it, and don't know how pure it is. Purity may have something to do with toxic feeling effects, but those are probably, literally, all placebo. There are other LSx chemicals that can be made more easily, and thus may be sold as LSD. And there are outright fakes, like 25x nbome, or dox, that could be dangerous if you dose yourself as though they where standard LSD blotter. And the seller probably does not have any real clue, beyond what they where told by someone else with no real clue, whiche one of these their product is. Obviously, when someone is trying to quantify something that they don't really know about, they'll be comparing it to a dosage of purest LSD. Mushrooms are, actually, exactly the same, except more likely to be legit. There's pscilocin and pscilocybin, respectively a prodrug and the drug that it degrades into. There's more or less, and that's it. It won't be "clean" or anything, it has a wide range of effects and that doesn't mean it's a dirty strain or something. Of course, non psychoactive mushrooms can be adulterated with drugs and sold, but this seems to be very rare.
Swim thinks it may come down to the person visiting lucy.. Swim's first experience with lucy was interesting.. he did with two friends... but swim's experience was waaay off the charts. His friend's experienced maybe 1/4th of what swim experienced. Swim was on for many hours longer than his friends as well, they may have built up tolerance? but they were saying swim's mind must be very very active. Swim has always been a very creative mind
I get my LSD in liquid form, so my view will reflect that experience. A carrier, often an edible starch in my case, has a saturation point. A slip of paper saturates faster than a sesame stick from the bulk bin, because there is more sesame stick than paper. Where a drop, or maybe, maybe, two will saturate the paper, the sesame stick will hold, oh, nine to 13. Want to tell me which will be a more potent sample? Note to self, don't saturate the sesame stick again. Heroic doses are not for me.
