I've been told that mushrooms induce a lighter more softer trip than an acid trip. Acid is said to be more of a ''RRAW" whereas mushrooms are gloopy and relaxed. Is this so? I'm looking for the least intense psychedelic to take first. Alot of people seem to have tried mushrooms long before they try acid. Also, is DMX a good psychedelic to try first? A girl i know told me to try salvia first?
hmn i dunno, i tried salvia - and i didnt get the full effect but i found it not too nice, the feeling of smoking it- it tastes like a bitch. anyway im not too knowledgeable about psychedelic self experiences, but i do know shrooms are milder then lsd. lsd is like the king of trips. but its also in the dosage, u could get a bigger effect from 10g of shrooms than 1 tab of acid also the quality varies
acid seems to get me a bit higher, but I actually have found shrooms to be more screwy and heavier on the head than acid. I was always tip-top on lsd, but shrooms seem a bit more tumultuous and confusing. neither is really stronger, though. it would really depend on the dose and quality.
Acid and mushrooms are different. They both make you trip. I would never say that any hallucinogen is stronger or weaker than another because in the correct amount they will all have the same profoundness or strength of effect. Shrooms vary by each type. Some psilocybin shrooms (usually thin stemmed shrooms in my experience) have slightly different effects and half as much potency. Thick stemmed large white pscylocibin shrooms are usually quite potent but less visual than others. Most psylocibin caps give you a feeling of oneness with nature and may cause mild realisations which can improve your life. In a recent blind study, 66 percent of test subjects given psylocibin shrooms reported that after several months had gone by, their life has drastically improved. LSD is less recreational. It may cause feelings of oneness with everything and completely change your life. I would start out with 2 hits of acid and then try 3. Acid is the best! If you are a thinker, or you are good at math, if you enjoy revealing truths about yourself and about the world, LSD is for you. salvia is completely different and if you smoke a massive amount of the extract in one hit you will not remmeber what happened and may hurt yourself. When I smoke salvia, it usually gives a pulling feeling unless I smoke alot and then I become an object I am looking at and live a story of that object. It lasts 5 minutes but you lose all concept of time and all co0ncept of anything for that matter.
also you are asking about DXM, there is no drug called DMX. DXM is found in over the counter cough medication and is not a hallucinogen, it is dissacociative. I do not recomend DXM to anyone. It is dangerous in large quantities and I would compare the feeling to being drunk.
with some shrooms that I have had, 10 grams would have me face down on the ground out somewhere in the woods for hours, completely unaware of my surroundings. With some shrooms, 10 grams is a good amount for a couple hours of very mild visuals.
IMO, the mushroom spirit is very kind and will guide you, acid does not seem to have a spirit to it, it's just you
i tripped my first time on shrooms on the weeked. having taken acid numerous times before shrooms. we took a pretty decent dose around 4 grams or somthing, not exactly sure. whilst it was insanly conusing, and all i could see was swirling patterns, it wasnt entirely pleasant, until the peak wore off, that i could stand out side and enjoy nature, without being in a crazy trip, felt like one of us was gonna loose it and bang down the neighbours door and that sort of thing, that you often hear about shrooms. lsd is way, way more mindfucky, with way more intricate hallucinations, and you can rememebr more of it, and you dont feel tired either. you feel way more worn out after acid, and acid changes you alot more. me and my friends came to some conclusions on shrooms, about drugs we take. they are all just fucking posoin. we are poisoning our brains. either lsd and shit is showing us all these things. or basically its just putting it into overdrive, by posining it, and fucking us up, and theres nothing mroe to it than that, anything you realise is just a trip. its funny how a mushroom trip could possibly leave me to be less phelosiphical than i had ever been before. more grounded in reality. drugs are posion. but the senses were all to confusing, the grass was 2 feet hi. and i went to take a pee in the back yard, and all these demon faces surrounded me. it was the most intense trip iv been on, whilst however not being the most mindfucky. lsd is your ultimate trip, and lsd is alot better on a completly differnt level.
Just getting off of my first acid trip. LSD slams your head against a stone wall and leaves you to fend for yourself. It is full-blown psychedelia. Mushrooms are milder. Both are good.
OK think about what you are saying. Drugs are poison? WTF, if drugs are poison then you are made of poison. The human body regulates itself using the most powerful drugs we can conceive. When we sleep, DMT is released and that is why we dream. We use roughly 10% of our brain at one time while awake, and 90% at a time while we sleep. Many people concur that LSD and pcsylocybin allow us to use more of our brain while awake at one time. I am a believer that LSD lifts the veils of false reality which we create in our minds. I have read that LSD detaches the neuron connections in our brain and essentially deprograms our mind. In no way is it poison. Maybe if LSD is used too often or in too large of a quantity it can cause a person to function less profitably in todays society, but that is not indication that it is some poison. Heroin is poison, Meth is poison... Many legal prescriptions are deadly poisons. LSD is the opposite. Medically it cures opiate withdrawl and in many cases it can cure drug addiction. Do some research on your "poisons." Maybe hallucinogenic drugs are not your cup of tea.
Actually though this is a normal conclusion that people come to while on hallucinogens. They see that their own drug use is excessive and in effect conclude that all drugs are bad. Everyone can benefit from this realization. If one uses drugs for recreation, they should use them responsibly or not at all, and they should not become addicted to any drug or habbit or action for that matter. You and your friends had a very normal reaction to the hallucinogen and I believe that you should think it through and accept that recreational drug use cannot bring you anything in life. I do not believe LSD or mushrooms to be recreational. The heaviest users I know don't use more than once every couple of weeks tops. I call that an intellectual healing tool.
Lol 10g's of the fungus I typically eat would leave you crying for your mom to come hold you and tell you everything's going to be alirght :tongue: Mild visuals? 10g's?!?!?! What, maybe 10 wet g's fresh picked out of the earth. But 10 dried g's? Their little God temples. Mother Nature teaching us how she feels.
Yes but lets not forget that the most potent mushrooms are the most profitable. Some people like to try diverse types of mushrooms which may not be as potent, but the difference in the effect is distinct. I have taken about 6 grams of little blue capped shrooms, and all were smaller caps than a dime. They had long thin stems and I remember the feeling did not produce a normal mush body high. The effect I would describe would be an extremely detached view of the world instead of a connection with it. I could see tall trees looming over my head and they seemed to whisper to each other and at one point I noticed a dragon in the sky swooping down at me breathing fire. I could have easily taken 10 maybe 20 grams of these shrooms and had a great time, unlike most shrooms I get. The feeling was much more of a mystical magical feeling than any other trips I have had even with the exact same setting. This was one of my first trips and it was different than all of my usual mushroom trips which distort time and make me feel at one with everything.
I would not go as far as to not recommend trying a DXM trip. Way before mushrooms/ LSD this was where I began. As with any drug research is key to using DXM. There are over the counter medications that contain dxm (dextromethorphan) as well as other active ingredients which is what makes dxm dangerous in large quantities. However, if you read up, you will see that there are also cough medicine with dxm being the ONLY active ingredient, making it fairly safe up to a certain dosage. Reports of 3000 mg + being the Human overdose on dxm, which is ALOT of syrup or gel caps. In my personal experience, going over 1000 mg is not necessary. Although yes it is a dissociative, it really does produce a very powerful trip. The mindset you are in is very similar to lsd, but your body function is much less controllable. You tend to feel like you are not in your body at all when you peak. My highest DXM trip was 980 mg, and I felt spirtually awakened, I floated up out of my body, and watched it laying there in bed. It was a spirtual yet scary experience. I would actually recommend a 300-400 mg dxm experience first, before lsd or mushrooms, just so you are ready for what a trip feels like, and not overwhelmed.
All the people whom I know that have used DXM have said that it is not worth it. I once had DXM and I find it too recreational and not coordinated enough to be worth using. It is more like K than acid. If I was able to think clearly when I was on DXM it would be a different story but I was not. I find it a waste of time compared to shrooms dmt or acid.
perhaps because the thought of you as a philosopher is held in place by ego? you know becoming a great philosopher is not something you force yourself to do, it just sort of happens and anything you eat is poisin... actually the least posinus chemical youve ever consumed in your life is THC. Mushrooms are actually less toxic than coffee beans.
i dont know. im still coming to terms with things. just you see things differnt ways, and for a while you question it all, and then re-gain all you knew again, but in a differnt way. im doin another trip tomorwo night? is it bad to trip such a high dose again within a week?