Hi i am a seasoned tripper i prefer alone bc of the spiritual sense and the distraction other people seem to bring. I am not to sure what the long lasting effects are from but. i have had problems sleeping, anxiety, worrying about things, and i seem very seperate from society i have trouble communicating with normal people . i personally enjoy it but i look clean cut and like your average joe bc i dont want to be labeled. I wouldnt say my brain is fried bc im very intelligent but im not to sure if its the new perspectives ive gained out of trips and brought back with me or if its the amounts of different drugs ive used. wondering if anyone else has experience the same effects. i still highly encourage l use in the right setting and mindset but i feel like i dont fit in with normal society at all
Based on what you wrote: -Hi i am a seasoned tripper * i prefer alone bc of the spiritual sense and the distraction other people seem to bring. = [eventual] very seperate from society i have trouble communicating with normal people -I wouldnt say my brain is fried bc im very intelligent -its the new perspectives ive gained out of trips and brought back with me. ------- -Soon we also realize being normal, fitting in, and being able to shoot the shit with others while still feeling entertained (rather than always needing to be intelligent and looking at a bigger picture) is very important too. Spend time with people. Lay off the heavy drugs. If you must a little beer or social weed may be okay, is my advice.. But hey you don't have to forgoe what you've learned or not learned either. It's still all up to you.
very true the thing is though is i havent used like i used to in 3 years sure here and there every once in a while but all these things started after my trips and after i had to start dealing with people not stoned or high. it just feels akward im just constantly over analyzing everything when i smoke it goes away i have a job where i talk to people all day long but its an act. its not normal by appearance but it just feels akward maybe its how fucked up i used to get and going about my normal day like that and how its changed now ive been mostly clean self confidence issues around people , anxiety, worrying,afraid to open up to people bc my views are so far from what society thinks is the norm. i wouldnt be asking the question if i thought i was albert einstein lol maybe it came out wrong i just dont want anyone to get the impression one time changed it it was a series of spiritual rebirths from high dosages
other people distract the spirituality of my trip not that i dont want them around but they can mess with you,wig out, do something dangerous,start crying. all that just sets a really bad vibe so i prefer alone with my thoughts my artwork and music. im just talking about interacting with the world after prolonged abuse of most everything and then going without even years after
I smoked weed for about 6 or 7 years from around the age of 15, smoking heavily for the latter 5. I eventually quit because I hit a wall of anxiety big time, so much so that for a period of about 6 months I didn't want to leave the house. After quitting, I continued to have this social ineptness and complete disregard towards meeting let alone conversing with new people and my confidence was shot to pieces. This remained for a fair amount of time and although I still haven't fully regained the open and sociable person I was as a teen, I'm finally getting there . It's been almost 3 years since quitting (with a couple of relapses of a joint or two) and I have cut down my alcohol consumption substantially. I take acid and shrooms once a month at the most and I can honestly say that apart from the odd day where I feel down, (who doesn't get that?) I feel good in myself. Take from that what you will but I personally don't think it's the hallucinogens that make you feel this way.
I can relate with feeling detached from people after tripping sometimes. I occasionally have some anxiety and I guess worry about things but I'm fairly anxious sober and so I think LSD just magnifies that and sometimes I find it's helpful and healthy actually, like I learn about things that I should actually be worrying about over insignificant things that I was worrying about. So I'd say it's probably not solely the LSD causing those symptoms but it may perhaps exacerbate some of them.
I trip for spiritual reasons as well and usually all by myself. When you trip for spirituality then you don't mind all the negative feelings coming up because they arise so they can be accepted/integrated. That being said I don't fit in society unless I wear a mask, our society/culture is not genuine so i don't see any other way to function in it. I do wish that I could find my place in the world where i am comfortable.
No one is normal. Many people will try to conform with the standards society sets, like yourself, but inwardly, like you, everyone struggles with their own brand of insanity/weirdness. I know what you mean about tripping around other people. They might expect things of you, you'll want to say/do something but worry they might perceive you as something other than normal, and so on. My solution is to trip around people I love and trust, or my favorite, alone. I would venture a guess that your problems are not related to use of LSD. Perhaps it is a result of some things you discovered in yourself while tripping, but I doubt it's a direct consequence of your use. Of course, everyone is different, and everyone is really equally clueless when it all comes down to it. I am still processing things from my last trip about 6 months ago, and I think if I never tripped again I would probably still reflect on my trips in years to come. Finally, you might not fit in with "normal" society. (Hell, I could almost argue that normal society is batshit insane and only the truly mad could fit in) Understand there is a great big world out there, and it's very easy and liberating to go out and wander in it.
I am much more social when I'm not smoking too, and much more confident/less anxious. When I stop, a few days later I feel much better, and after a week I'm surprised at how much more outgoing I am...talking to strangers, etc. When I start smoking heavily again, I'm much more of an introvert. LSD and other tripping doesn't seem to cause this. Although during times there I am tripping a lot, mundane conversations may seem meaningless. I have to remember, although small talk is meaningless on some levels, it has a purpose.
I must say that after some trips, in particular acid, it takes me a day or so to string a proper sentence together because my brain is so exhausted.
I can very much relate to the sentiment of the OP. For me, it often manifests as a disposition of conscience. I am doing something I KNOW is not wrong, but society has deemed wrong and most everyone I know disagrees with. It's a kind of private rebellion that makes me have to shield a whole important set of experiences, a whole important part of my life, from my friends and family. Naturally some isolation and paranoia are a result.
thanks for the insight guys been going through it for a while trying to be myself but yet dont want to have the negative consequences in jobs,relationships and family. my absence from my spiritual trips was very akward. when i stopped tripping i was in a really bad state family problems,isolation,friends left for college but ive tripped a couple times in the last month after 3 years of not finding anything worth taking but got great insight from my last couple trips and feel like i am looking at life in a brand new way and starting to feel great about it its a shame i cant be open about it and talk to people about it. thats part of the reason i finally signed up to post in the forums so i could meet like minded people and see what other people thought. thank you guys for the great insight. i know theres nothing wrong and ive never not fit in but now i dont know if its the direction society is heading or im maturing. im thinking maybe my self awareness is high and my natural anxiety in public was worse cause i feel like i have to act. i still have trouble in groups when everyones talking i guess its a confidence issue really. itd be nice to find a place to feel accepted. i work in a highly competitive corporate job and it sucks not to feel like i belong. its changing though i used psychs therapeutically for years even abused them to a point when i was younger. its weird but these great trips in the last month almost feel like theyve righted the majority of what i was feeling. good to know some people know what im talking about
