Looking for good P2P

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  1. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    I use Limewire Pro but would like a good second backup program. I used Winmx till they were taken over-I don't like Bearshare, any others?
     
  2. Adderall_Assasin

    Adderall_Assasin Senior Member

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    everything you just mentioned is dangerous. go with bittorrent. read about it and then install it. the best
     
  3. robspace2

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    Thanks-I'll check it out-I was told the feds shut down WINMX; to much porn-It's a shame when you can have such good access to audio/video then the freaks have to come along and get it shut down-
     
  4. AreYouExperienced

    AreYouExperienced American Victim

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    Check out soulseek, it's probably the only good P2P left.

    www.slsknet.org
     
  5. Number6

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    The big problem with most P2P software is it is actually spyware, adware or malware. Including but not limited to Limewire, Kazaa, Bearshare and Morpheus. Even if its not crapware directly, they setup an environment where crapware thrives by opening up vulnerabilties that would not otherwise be there. Bittorrent is probably the least dangerous of the bunch.
     
  6. robspace2

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    Well I do run the full package of Norton which has spyware removal as well as virus protection. I also have Spyware Detector running in the background. I don;t have much problems with it really;it's just too hard to get things going sometimes. Too many people on it.I'm sure the Feds are tracking it as well-like WINMX-Thanks for the info though I will check em both out.
     
  7. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    IMO, BearShare-Lite has been good to me. for not only music, but video and software too. I'm runnin some decent protection.
     
  8. robspace2

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    I tried Bear along time ago and had some connection problem-so I gave up on it-Your right on the security issue; it would seem that a good protection program or two should be enough to snuff the bugs as they come along. Who knows though; it gets worse all the time. I was told that Vista has so much security that it makes surfing near impossible.-No thanks-I have never had a Mac. Are they alot safer to work with as far as spy and ad- ware goes?
     
  9. sentient

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    try this. Could someone assess this perhaps who knows about p2p.
    I know little about it except bad experiences
    it looks like theyre genuine when they say its not infected with anything
    and its safe
    http://www.zultrax.com/

    I'd second what Aderall Assassin says.
    You cant trust any programs that have an association with spyware and adware in their past. As adware gets more sophisticated they dont need to send continuous popups to make money out of you. They just embed each web page as it arrives at the computer with different ads or ads that werent there before. Also its about data trawling now as well.
    Best stick to some decent ones like bit torrent. I know bearshare is bugged with all sorts of crud. Everyone knows Kazaa, bearshare, and limewire are BIG trouble and infact if I were you I would block all your computers ports against them (if they do not use incremental port scans).

    Never trust any p2p if it says that to use it you have to suffer adware. Most of them install their shit all over your operating system and its not just hard but really long time procedures to get clean again.

    this zultrax program looks good
    http://www.zultrax.com/
     
  10. Adderall_Assasin

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    Zultrax

    it looks better than bearshare or limewire, but i dont trust any program unless the vendor/distributor offers the program's source code. maybe i missed the download link to it though.
     
  11. robspace2

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    I have the paid version of Limewire and don't have any popups or adware at all-I do use Norton and Spyware Detector running in the background-I also limit the amount of uplaods to 3 and don't use the chatrooms.-I just saw a report on tv about Limewire being dangerous as far as allowing peoples access to personal info. In the options section I only allow limited access to music files only-not to the whole system or drive-I have never had any id theft or browser hijackings-I did get rid of the free protection that all the big ISPs give away-Mc Affee is junk-It misses more virus's then it catches-
     
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    I think the music and movie industry has a scare campaigne going against the file sharing programs-I'm sure Hollywierd will stop at nothing to shut em down-so Tom Cruise can make a little more money-after all ;20 mill per pic is peanuts right?-I think it would be fair to allow 10 copies of any movie to be burned and given to friends and not be breaking anybodys laws-Lets face it most people cannot always afford to purchase books or cds and depend on borrowing from friends and librarys to make it through school or sit home with the family.-The people who make millions off pirating flicks are wrong but most people just want to make a copy or two for friends or backup-big difference-I refuse to pay 5 bucks for popcorn or soda!
     
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    I have ZULTRAX running now-not quite as fast as Limewire but it looks good and no ads-Its also free-Looks like a keeper-
     
  14. Adderall_Assasin

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    there are a few misconceptions here. i can say this because i am majoring in Computer System Security Analyst. the newest/recent version of McAffee is much much better than anything Norton has offered. idc if you paid $1 or $1,000 for Limewire, you are still vulnerable. its an easy 'telnet -p' even with the most sophisticated firewall. btw, limiting access to just a folder and not the whole drive does not do anything for you. a hacker is a hacker... not another dude with limewire.

    on the other hand, you did the right thing to get rid of all the free ISP crap.

    Bittorrent FTW!
     
  15. sentient

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    P2P is so dangerous because it opens up ways to "burrow" into the computer
    Instant messaging programs like nicrosoft live messenger and yahoo messenger are beginning to act more like p2p programs now and you can even trasfer files up to 1GB using them. Maybe these are safer alternatives? can someone who knows a lot about 2p2
    explain whether these messenger programs are now p2p or are they using a totally different method. They fileshare, communicate, even transport data files
     
  16. robspace2

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    -Your probably right about the p2p programs-There is plenty of evidence to back up what you are saying.This Zultrax does work good and as far as Limewire I have never had any problems with it-I had Mc Affee for quite a while when I had AOL and then again with MSN and each time I would rescan using Norton and it would find more virus's that Mc Afee left behind-Sorry I will stick with Norton-It just works better for me-It is a huge program but they cover every point of entry for spyware and virus's-and Spyware Detector does the same-I also keep the system real clean -I completely remove all deleted files every other day or so with Search and Recover-and Window Washer-I used to have alot of virus problems with Mc Affee-it was free and I can run it now as it's free with my isp-MSN but I leave Norton on for protection-I would not pretend to know more then you on pcs as I am still new with them and not priofessionaly trained;so any advice I listen to-So far I just go with whatever works best-thanks for the help-
     
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    Adderall-It could be that the version of McAffee that comes free with the AOL or MSN IPS is not as effective as the version your talking about-I had alot of virus's slip past McAffee when I ran it-maybe an older or different version?-I like ZULTRAX-It seems good but how dirty is it? I have no trouble with viru;s as I keep the system cleaned out alot.-If McAffee now has a version that can catch as much adware and viru's as Norton I will gladly switch back as it's free with my ISP-MSN-thanks for the help-
     
  18. goatsecks

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    3 letters kids:

    FXP
     
  19. robspace2

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    File eXchange Protocol
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    Internet protocol suite
    5. Application layer
    DNS, TLS/SSL, TFTP, FTP, HTTP, IMAP4, IRC, MIME, POP3, SIP, SMTP, SNMP, SSH, TELNET, RTP, SDP, …

    4. Transport layer
    TCP, UDP, RSVP, DCCP, SCTP, …

    3. Network layer
    IP (IPv4, IPv6), ICMP, IGMP, ARP, RARP, …

    2. Data link layer
    Ethernet, Wi-Fi, PPP, FDDI, ATM, Frame Relay, GPRS, Bluetooth, …

    1. Physical layer
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    File eXchange Protocol (FXP) is a method of data transfer which uses the FTP protocol to transfer data from one remote server to another without routing this data through the client's connection. Conventional FTP involves a single server and a single client; all data transmission is done between these two. In the FXP session, a client maintains a standard FTP connection to two servers, and can direct either server to connect to the other to initiate a data transfer. The advantage of using FXP over FTP is evident when a high-bandwidth server demands resources from another high-bandwidth server, but only a low-bandwidth client, such as a network administrator working away from location, has the authority to access the resources on both servers.

    Contents [hide]
    1 Risk
    2 FXP over SSL
    3 Technical
    4 References
    5 See also



    [edit] Risk
    Enabling FXP support, however, can make a server vulnerable to an exploit known as FTP bounce. FXP is also frequently used for warez trafficking. As a result of this, FTP server software often has FXP disabled by default.


    [edit] FXP over SSL
    Some FTP clients such as FlashFXP and FTP Servers such as glFTPd and RaidenFTPd support negotiation of a secure data channel between two servers using either of the FTP protocol extension commands; CPSV or SSCN. This normally works by the client issuing CPSV in lieu of the PASV command - or by sending SSCN prior to PASV transfers -, which instructs the server to create either a SSL or TLS connection. However, both methods - CPSV and SSCN - are susceptible to Man-in-the-Middle attacks, since the two FTP servers do not verify each other's SSL certificates.--I know very little about this but I'm learning-I found this good article outlining the good and the bad with both protocols-It does look like FXP is alot more secure but it too has drawbacks-It said that Warez uses it-If I;m not mistaken Warez is infected constantl;y- I trieed them once and just sat and sat waiting for the stars to line up right so I could get a download going--How would I use FXP to share music files?-It looked like more business dats then mp3s-please excuse my lack of knowledge on this-


    [edit] Technical
     
  20. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    Actually I can recommend this as a method of transfer
    try http://www.logmein.com
    they are an extremely professional outfit that offer extraordinary free services. they are very security conscious and some of their services involve high volume data transfer, free of charge. You will have to look and see what they offer but my advice is if you cant get what you want out of p2p look there

    Yeah basically the poster who wrote "3 letters kids: FXP" has a jacckass avatar which says a lot. Basically FXP is the name for a method that allows data transfer between two ftp servers without the need to download to the client machine first client. Yes you can use this for for transferring files but it assumes that its between two servers its not quite the same as a client server FTP. To use this as a method of achieving the same as p2p would be a struggle.
    Basically its a way to sit at a computer and direct two other servers to connect and transfer data between each other without routing the data to the computer you are sitting at. It has little if nothing to do with p2p as ordinarily understood by end users. Its not called FTP because FTP is the protocol and FXP is a method of using the protocol to force a direct connection between two remote servers and is usually employed in mirror server setups.
     

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