Logical Paradoxes

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Turn, Aug 26, 2004.

  1. Turn

    Turn Member

    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    0
    I couldn't think of any, but I really want to know some.
     
  2. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

    Messages:
    1,664
    Likes Received:
    4
    Cantor's paradox (a paradox in set theory) Russell's paradox (also a paradox in set theory) Burali-Forti's paradox ('what is the ordinal number of the series of all ordinal numbers?')
     
  3. Maes

    Maes Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,044
    Likes Received:
    1
    "Something that is not itself"

    this is an analytic proposition, that does not need to be proven. It is self determinant. But in this case, also a paradox. To make u see what paradox is like:
     
  4. AreYouExperienced

    AreYouExperienced American Victim

    Messages:
    1,089
    Likes Received:
    2
    "The greatest is within the smallest."
     
  5. Turn

    Turn Member

    Messages:
    516
    Likes Received:
    0
    Very good stuff, thanks alot
     
  6. drewbee

    drewbee Member

    Messages:
    398
    Likes Received:
    0
    Very neat with the picture, it took me a few seconds of looking at it to understand what is going on, but now realize it is the waterfall powering itself. Very neat indeed.
     
  7. fat_tony

    fat_tony Member

    Messages:
    812
    Likes Received:
    0
    The liar said 'I am a liar'. Or infact pretty much anything involving time travel often called the temporal paradox. oing back in time to kill a parent is a good logical paradox.
     
  8. Fractual_

    Fractual_ cosmos factory

    Messages:
    6,927
    Likes Received:
    7
    everything in this sentence is false.

    i love hate.
     
  9. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

    Messages:
    4,434
    Likes Received:
    17
    "If I could go back, and change my past to make THIS time better, I would".
    If so, WHY would you need to make THIS time better? It already would be by what you did when you went back.
     
  10. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

    Messages:
    11,504
    Likes Received:
    21
  11. fat_tony

    fat_tony Member

    Messages:
    812
    Likes Received:
    0
    A paradox is defined as; a statement which seems to contradict itself or to conflict with common sense but which contains.
    Indeed a couple of the above listed contradictory statements are used when introducing the temporal paradox in special relativity.
     
  12. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

    Messages:
    11,504
    Likes Received:
    21
  13. fat_tony

    fat_tony Member

    Messages:
    812
    Likes Received:
    0
    Except the Twins paradox can be resolved, thus negating it as an actual paradox. The logically unresolvable sentences above have no resolution as far as I know.
    I believe that taking into account the fact that the traveller is not in the same inertial reference frame resolves the paradox. I believe that this has been tested by experiment, by using particles accelerated in a magnetic fields to speeds where gamma > 1.
     
  14. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

    Messages:
    6,514
    Likes Received:
    4
  15. isness

    isness Member

    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thought itself is a paradox as thought brings about desire, and desire brings about a repetition of thought, which in turn is thought about, and then desired to be thought again, which could bring new thought, and so forth. Thought never achieves its goal, for thought always distorts the truth and the truth is what we strive to understand with our thoughts.
     
  16. Psychedelic Moss

    Psychedelic Moss Member

    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    0
    think about thinking.
    the mind is a paradox.
     
  17. TheStoon

    TheStoon Member

    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    0
    Nah, the paradox is that the water appears to flows downhill to get up to the waterfall.
     
  18. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    1,778
    Likes Received:
    48
    Quite a few are covered here.

    I've always liked Zeno's Paradoxes, and some months back I read that someone had published something resolving them to the satisfaction of many in that field, but I've not yet tracked it down for a look-see.
     
  19. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

    Messages:
    11,504
    Likes Received:
    21
  20. drewbee

    drewbee Member

    Messages:
    398
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah, I love the beer mugs that do this :p

    It makes it look like beer is coming out of a levitating keg tap and pouring into a mug lol
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice