Live music

Discussion in 'Music' started by walsh, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Music was only ever meant to be beheld live. The invention of sound reproduction was a huge blow for the full utilization of the medium by humans. How can standing in front of a moving, swirling pulsation of energy and sound possibly compare with sitting in your lounge room in front of a box which makes sounds? When music is reproduced the entire spectrum that exists apart from the sound is omitted, distorting the true experience of music. It was when music was mistaken for sound when music died.
     
  2. alwayscrackers

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    music hasnt died here in the uk, plenty of live music with various bands and solos going on in pubs and festivals, but i know what you mean. i love my music and when i listen to my collection on cd or computer it takes me right back to when i heard the real thing live.
     
  3. alwayscrackers

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    forgot to say that its is also a good, not perfect of course though, way to hear music that we never had a chance to get to see live because of distance or time constraints.
     
  4. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Yeah. I'm only really saying music live > music not. I'd still rather reproduced music than nothing at all.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Music was limited once to only to be beheld live. Now that it can be recorded and listened to at will it is also meant to be listened to like this. I agree with this though:

    Nicely described. But I enjoy both immensely, so who's to say it isn't ment to be enjoyed alone listening from record.
    I for one am one of the rare people (it seems) that avoid ear buds and headphones like the plague. I also never listen to music when I'm on the bike or walking (in the car is a different issue since there are normal boxes), especially in busy places.
    It's mainly because I just don't enjoy being sealed of to the other sounds of everything happening around me. I understand other peeps have a different experience with portable music and ear buds/headphones but it's not for me.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    I really enjoy both, I find live music a far more visceral, intense and primal experience But I think musician's vision with songs often are better relayed through recorded music.
     
  7. Irminsul

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    I'm not not going to listen to music just because it's not live.
     
  8. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    If you did, then live music would be much more powerful. Non-auditory frequencies were a major part of the tribal musical assembly around which musical customs were developed, and so when modern music switched to reproduction much was lost.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    I'm not sure about that, sounds a bit dramatic. It's lost in the recorded stuff perhaps but can still be encountered in many places in the world. And the art of recording brought much musical evolution so to speak as well.
     
  10. Tyrsonswood

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    While it's true something was lost when recorded music became the norm, much was gained at the same time. There's things that can happen in the studio that could never happen live...
     
  11. Asmodean

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    Perhaps if a fanatic music lover has not experienced a good live performance you could say indeed that something is lost in his perception of music compared to the historic experiences of people that could only experience it live but then it remains just an individual loss.
     
  12. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Music is a ritual - it is composed for that purpose. Any visit to a rock concert will tell you that. On CD, all that's gone. Let's face it - recorded music sucks. Go to a Doors concert and then tell me listening to a CD of them is better. (Well, you can't, of course but you know what I mean.)
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Does that include a concert of for instance Nickelback? Perhaps some rituals can be afforded to be lost... :p I know what you mean though ;)

    By the way I saw a leftover of the doors live (with Ian Astbury on vocals) and although it was very good I can't say it equals blasting some Doors out of my speakers. In the end it is just preference nowadays, you can still be part of the ritual. My bet is that it has been experienced different by people for centuries, even though it's basically still a ritual happening.
     
  14. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    You're comparing tv with stereo. Tv is still reproduced.
     
  15. Asmodean

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    What do you mean? I did not saw them live on tv if you think that.
     
  16. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Oh, I thought that's what you meant by leftover. But you mean you saw Doors live? And you didn't like as much as the CD? :confused:
     
  17. Tyrsonswood

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    Even the Doors did studio sound manipulation that could never be captured in a live setting. That doesn't take anything away from seeing them "live", but recording is an art in and of itself and can be just as exciting to listen to.

    Maybe you are seeing the "party" of a live situation as more important than the music itself.
     
  18. Asmodean

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    I saw the doors without the original singer and drummer, so what i saw were the leftovers :p It was a good show but I got an equally great kick out of the studio albums (several times).
     
  19. arthur itis

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    I saw Hendrix live, in '69, and it sucked. I love his studio albums.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Haha, guess you have to have a bit of luck if the ritual succeeds or not ;)
     
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