Let's Write an Essay on Drugs

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by Spicey Cat, Nov 23, 2010.

  1. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Let's Write an Essay on Drugs and give it to my husband, okay? I would appreciate your help. The essay will in fact just be a list of points.

    Here is the Theme:

    Why Might an Adult in Their Right Mind Choose to Take Drugs?
    You May NOT answer: To Get High or For Euphoria or To Feel Good or To Combat Boredom


    I'll start:

    1.) For personal insight.

    2.) For spirituality.

    3.) For therapeutic reasons - there can be something very cleansing about even a difficult experience.
     
  2. i_need_a_miracle

    i_need_a_miracle Venusian Goddess

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    Um. . . because they never grew out of it from when they chose to partake in their early teens? It's one of those "Do what you love to do, because you love to do it for various reasons" kind of thing.
     
  3. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Hmmm, that's not gonna fly with dear old hubby. Also, for me, personally, it' ain't true. I didn't touch anything psychedelic between 1989 and 2009.
     
  4. i_need_a_miracle

    i_need_a_miracle Venusian Goddess

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    So, what is the essay for?
     
  5. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Are you on drugs?

    Edit: Sorry if it wasn't clear.

    I take psychedelics for various reasons. My husband does not. He used to. He seems to have absorbed some negative propaganda and also appears to harbor some personal vehemence for Dr. Shulgin.

    He's only had one difficult experience in his entire 60 year life - a harrowing DMT trip. All others were nothing but pleasure, fun and euphoria. He truly knows nothing about bad trips, difficult experiences, roller coaster rides, etc. He honestly (though he can give some lip service) does not seem to understand why someone might take something that could yield a tough experience or why someone might go back to something that yielded a bad trip.

    If I take psychedelics in his presence, I seem to have to be "on point." Apparently, all of a sudden, I am NOT allowed to let go and be myself at home, because that might involve some moaning or squinting or crying or whatever. Who gives a fuck, it's not the point.

    I told him HE should have to write this essay, but I was hoping my forum compatriots could come up with a HUGE list. Perhaps I am mistaken. Thanks for looking.
     
  6. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Good luck spicey, some people will never understand though, that is their journey. This is ours.
     
  7. i_need_a_miracle

    i_need_a_miracle Venusian Goddess

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    Currently, no, I am not on drugs. I'm not sure why you even asked me that. It kind of sounds like you need to smoke some weed and calm down or something. This isn't a big deal. We have a ton of reasons why we do drugs, but apparently, they aren't good enough for you (or your husband). My two cents. I will ask you again. . . what is the essay for? Is this just some bullshit thing to write out of boredom? Is this some essay that someone who is enrolled in school must write for a grade? Speak clearly and you will find what you need. No use bitchin' about not getting satisfactory answers. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but I do hope you find it.
     
  8. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    You come across as the one who needs to calm down!!!
     
  9. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    To see and communicate with other worlds (spirituality?)

    For their healing powers
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    One might take a psychoactive substance to gain the insight that we are all one. One collective consciousness spread unevenly throughout a plethora of dimensions of the vast space that is reality. This insight can not only give one a profound sense of inner peace, but it can also change the way one sees the world and treats their fellow man (extensions of themselves). It can also dissolve the illusion that death is an ending that needs to be feared by revealing that it is a transitory birth that should instead be seen with some excitement and acceptance.
     
  11. i_need_a_miracle

    i_need_a_miracle Venusian Goddess

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    I would like to make a slight retraction to my initial post on this thing. I was unaware that this was in the Psychedelics forums. I saw it after I clicked the link for "New Posts." I apologize. My answer has changed. The reason that I do any psychedelic drugs, as an adult, is because I crave the enlightenment and the experience of being on another plane. Psychedelics create a creative bond within myself and I love the experience that it brings. Doing LSD every now and then brings me back in touch with reality. I get frustrated with the mundane, I fly so high with Lucy in the sky, and I come back to the ground with a more positive outlook on my life. LSD realigns my chakras. It's a beautiful experience.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    I think you touched on the 3 main ones Spicey I can elaborate on what you said though.

    Personal insight: Being able to rewire the pieces in consciousness so one can be able to ponder and implement alternative ways of thinking, understanding and developing cognitively, If used correctly its one of the quickest ways for growth to happen IMO.

    I personally find this rewiring can be applied to the physical as well in interpretting my body movements in dance and playing the guitar in new ways as well.

    3) Therapeutic- For me being someone who often suppressess alot of emotion in a sober state of consciousness I find the flooding of emotions psychedelics bring to be a great sense of relief and almost helps me find balance or something. Connecting with my emotions and being able to witness the beauty of the enviornment I am surrounded by can leave me in awe. No doubt psychedelics can unveil some of the ugliness of self and enviornment too which can be difficult to face but necessary to confront at times.

    I find I understand others better as well. I empathsize with the strengths, weaknesses and insecurities of people when taking psychedelics together.

    2) spirituality- psychedelics aid in meditation and stuff like rhythmic drumming, trance humming, (I even find playing guitar spiritual at times) I also like pushing the doors of consciousness at times to see whats out there and it makes me appreciate the reality we all share as well.

    I know those were personal answers to me but hopefully you can take some of it you relate with or generalize it for your essay.
     
  13. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Thanks folks- these responses are exactly what I was hoping for and knew to be true.

    And yeah, i_need_a_miracle, I do need to smoke pot and chill. Working on it as well as some nice, mundane, Thanksgiving preparation.

    Meanwhile, trying to integrate and write up (I can post maybe 50-60% - rest is WAY too personal.) the most psychodynamic roller coaster ride of my life, while living with the oddest disapproving husband. He claims he is not disapproving (so this double neg makes a positive? Whatever.), at least for the traditionals like LSD, DMT, Mescaline. Yet, if I have a deep or rocky or introspective experience on one of those we're going to go over this territory AGAIN.

    Just wanted to make sure I had my shotgun loaded so to speak - go for the scatter effect - maybe one of these will make sense to him. They ALL make sense to me.
     
  14. i_need_a_miracle

    i_need_a_miracle Venusian Goddess

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    Is this an essay to prove a point? I still never got my answer about what the essay is for. :D
     
  15. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Great video. Maybe he'll watch it. Also, many shamans who used DMT did not have good or "fun" experiences. Many experienced pure hell, but that's why they took the trip. To purposely expose themselves that experience as a way to learn and pass that information along.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOHUaoLc6mo"]YouTube - How to work with and possibly avoid bad trips
     
  16. i_need_a_miracle

    i_need_a_miracle Venusian Goddess

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    I've never had a bad trip.
     
  17. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Why does he dislike Shulgin in particular? From what I have come across, Shulgin himself was never much of a drug user, once he felt he had a handle on a chemical's effects, he would move on. He is just a brilliant inventor who is fascinated with how the mind works. It is amazing how a tiny amount of a chemical can have such profound effects on our senses. But that's not why I take psychedelics, though I am interested in it.

    I view psychedelics as practice for sober reality and as a reminder that I am in control of my happiness. The euphoria I feel on psychedelics can easily be erased if I let a negative thought loop into my mind. This brings to light how powerful our mind is; focusing on positivity would bring out the euphoria and pleasant effects, while focusing on the negative would bring out despair and even apparent physical pain. But isn't that life? What you choose to focus on will determine your mental state at all times, it is just amplified when on psychedelics. It truly is a choice, no matter how much you feel destined to act or feel a certain way.

    I am getting better and better at consistently embracing life in a positive manner, and I am actually taking psychedelics less and less now because of it. There are moments when completely sober where I seem to draw upon my past psychedelic experiences and I experience complete euphoria from just the memory of those moments. I find myself much more in tune with my senses now as well, which has helped me live in the moment more often than in the past. You can often find me staring at clouds and trees in awe or I'll put on music and find myself covered in chills, with a smile so wide I couldn't stop if I tried. :D

    Basically, each time I decide to dose now, even though the drug will always wear off, in a way I am coming down less and less. Practice makes permanent, right? :)
     
  18. wounded healer

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    Wanted to contribute my .02 but haven't read the entire thread. If these "rhyme" with anything said already, take it as emphasis:

    All this can be summed up in the first 3 reasons given by op but I prefer to get a bit more "granular"...

    Insight - meaning... examining the "doors of perception"... understanding why "I" do the things I do and don't do the things I think I might like or need to.

    I've read that our most pernicious foibles can be traced back to an incident or condition experienced during our upbringing. Some "loving" part of us found that these (the foibles, inhibitions, character "flaws") were a way of protecting our vulnerable and immature selves/feelings. And if we are only willing to "re-imagine" that incident or condition as being handled differently while suspending disbelief, we can "un-knot" the complex and free up the energy for more "adult" pursuits. This (as well as [and along with] various forms of meditation) help with that.

    Magnifying glass on internal inhibitions and motivations.

    Re-educate the psyche - molding it into more "choice" "character(istics)".

    All this kind of stuff being "spiritual" to me as I do believe we are Spiritual beings having human experiences - I'd like to see (as opposed to merely "knowing" and/or believing) where "I" and the "Real Me" end/begin/interface.

    Why? It really boils down to an artistic pursuit.

    I have a "good job" with a pension which will probably wear me out and toss me aside without a second thought if I was willing to settle for that alone. I wasn't raised that way. I'd rather die than let them kill me;-). I won't feel fulfilled until I express some measure of my"self"... if only in the way that I live (if not in some paradigm smashing theory or works of art).

    So my art work / craft involves first getting to know my tools (psyche and the tentacles / emanations of Spirit) and using them to "fashion" my life into a more fulfilling expression.

    There's healing to be done and binaural beats and meditation have only taken me so far. I believe catastrophic "harmony" (shamanic crisis/catharsis) is called for. These "medicines" approach that for me.
     
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    are you on crack?, Who the fuck quotes a neurosoupakaNark..

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  20. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Personally the psychedelic experience has always been a great way to be able to view things from a different perspective. Psychedelics have allowed me to step out of my normal mental process and take a look at it from a critical point of view, sort of like having someone else read a text that you write.

    ..Though I suppose that is basically personal insight.
     
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