smartest thing i ever heard from a christian - any christian was when i was all hindu and doing sacrifices to ganesha and devas and shit and this friend said, that's why jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice so you wouldn't have to. and i really grooved out on that, he was smoking crack at the time but he hit a rare gem, and who am i to judge - jimmy swaggert liked to watch whore masturbate - the term for that is vicarious which means that vicars like to watch but back to point i would like to raise issue that world ecology is near extinction and industrialization and victorian ethics have pushed planet to near its last dying gasp so thanks for nothing christianity afaic