Large Numbers Of Criminal Migrants Living In U.S

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  1. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Update:

    Here's some clarity on this. Trump was using this against Biden.

    "The bottom line is that many of the convicted criminals described in the letter have been in the U.S. for a long time, before the Biden administration took office, according to government data and officials. Some are still in federal or state custody serving criminal sentences and are likely to be arrested by ICE. And others cannot be deported because their home countries won't take them back or they received legal relief from deportation in immigration court."

    Trump and allies mischaracterize data on immigrants with criminal convictions. Here's context on what the numbers actually show.
     
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    Motion Senior Member

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    ^^
    But it is true that large numbers of criminal migrants have been entering the U.S over the years.
     
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  3. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    The US have allowed migrants to cross the border to work for decades, but this is not the problem.
    According to one of our friends, the main problems are drug related, made complex by the corrupt special forces who are on the payroll for drugs crossing the border.

    Donald Trump's first manifesto sounded great to me, but as soon as our friend heard it he said, sadly Trump will have to go. No sooner did his plans for stopping the drugs trade by building his famous wall, along with his plans to limit imports from China to return manufacturing to the US hit the news, did all the fake news start. Needless to say, Trump went.

    The wall was just a ploy, telling the border forces that he knew what they were up to, While banning Chinese imports would have bankrupt the corrupt corporations who make billions without providing a single job in the US. It was estimated that Levi's would have lasted for about months. They were certainly not the only ones.

    Perhaps the REAL problem in the US is their fundamental political structure, where BOTH parties are funded by the companies who they should be controlling.
    The legal system also acts as if it is above the law, particularly in respect of law enforcement.

    Sometimes it is easier for us to see the problems from across the pond here in the UK. The problem is, that we do not know the answers.
    If I came across and aired my views, they would probably open a lead mine in the graveyard. :D
     
  4. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    "Who do I hold responsible" for racist and xenophobic propaganda, made to manipulate the gullible, the fearful, and the deeply stupid? The racist and xenophobic Republican Party, and racists and xenophobes like yourself, who mindlessly promulgate their hate-filled lies.

    Immigrants are 47% less likely to be convicted of crimes than native-born Americans, and 60% less likely to be jailed than native-born Americans.
    You're a racist and a liar. Go fuck yourself and peddle your hate-filled bullshit elsewhere!

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    "You're a racist and a liar. Go fuck yourself and peddle your hate-filled bullshit elsewhere!"
    Once again, someone posts an opinion and gets called names that are not called for.
     
  6. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Trump's boast that “...under my presidency, we had the most secure border... in the history of our country, in the history of the world,” was demonstrably complete and utter horseshit.
    Illegal immigration rose significantly while Trump was president. Under Trump, apprehensions at the Southwest border increased by more than 100% between FY 2016 and FY 2019 (from 408,870 to 851,508).
    In January of 2021 when Biden took office (despite Trump's attack on the U.S. Capitol in a failed coup d'etat) there were 75,316 Border Patrol "encounters". In January of 2024, after 3 years of a Democratic administration (including Kamala Harris as V.P., who Trump likes to ridicule as the "Immigration Czar"), there were 56,408; a decrease of 25%. Since February, Border Patrol encounters along the Southwest border have dropped by more than 50%.
    It's total bullshit that the borders are "open" or that we're being "invaded" or "overrun" by migrants. Democrats are not importing bazillions of immigrants to secretly vote Democratic in November; because immigrants can't vote. This is all part and parcel of a bullshit white supremacist lie; the "great replacement theory", meant to stampede the ignorant and stupid by stoking White folk's racist fears of brown-skinned people, and appealing to their innate sense of entitlement and White victimhood.

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    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Racism is an opinion the same way arsenic is a flavor.
     
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    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    You lose.
     
  10. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    If the price of your approval is to stop stating objective facts with supporting citations in refutation of racist propaganda and just confine myself to spouting nonsensical unattributed bullshit like the OP, then you can go fuck yourself as well. You're a major part of the problem.
     
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    Wow, i think someone might have an attitude problem. And it ain't me. LoL
     
  12. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Piobaire,

    There may not be a migrant crime wave but that doesn't mean there aren't any migrants coming across the border who aren't serious criminals.
     
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    Hmmm. Wonder what percentage of our ancestors were from some place else? ALL OF THEM!!:laughing:
     
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    Here's some info on this.

    "It’s not clear how many of the 13,099 people with homicide convictions on ICE’s non-detained docket as of July 21 are currently incarcerated in jails and prisons."

    "Why aren’t these people in immigration detention if they have been convicted of a crime as serious as homicide? Under a 2001 Supreme Court decision, the US government is not allowed to indefinitely keep someone in immigration detention after they have been ordered removed from the country. So if someone has served their criminal sentence for homicide and then is ordered to be removed from the US, but their country is uncooperative with the US on immigration and won’t take them back, they must be released in the US — usually after no more than six months in immigration detention."

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/29/politics/fact-check-trump-harris-immigrants-homicide/index.html
     
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    Motion Senior Member

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    ^^

    That article about Venezuela involving Troy Nehls wasn't about Venezuela dumping their people in the U.S. It was about Muduro halting deportations of Venezuelans from the U.S because of Biden sanctions towards Venezuela.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article286051566.html

    Is Biden taking these Venezuelans in? Well most people across the U.S think Biden has done a bad job of getting the southern border under control.
     
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