Lance Armstrong is stripped of titles, who gets them?

Just curious? I'm not a serious cyclist, I tried a web search on this but can't get a clear answer..anyone know about this?


Shayla
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tour de france announced they will show ''no winner'' for the years lance won...the olympic bronze will be returned and awarded to the next person that finished 4th

 

Nice one! thanks x

 

Problem is the people coming 2nd, 3rd are cheating too, so they leave the winner for those years blank. It's was said on a radio show i listen to that back in the day before the sport took drug testing seriously that 18 out of the top 20 were know inside the sport to be taking one thing or another.

 

It's the same percentages even with drug testing. The general public really has a naiveté about doping in sports. It's not just cycling, but most professional athletes in ALL sports take something... whether it's a supplement or a chemical agent. It's extremely difficult to compete at the pro level in any sport today, and doping is just a reality of life. You'll never take drugs out of sport, so the world doping agencies IMO should just stop wasting all the money they do trying to test everyone and either relax the doping rules or stop enforcing them all together.

I know the naive general public doesn't want to hear or accept that. They want to believe that it's only a few bad apples that dope and that there's no need for anyone to go that route and still be competitive... but the reality is that anyone can beat a drug test. Athletes do it all the time. And people actually WANT to see records broken and the level of competition continue to rise. That doesn't happen without doping.

 

So true bro.

 

I say let them dope themselves. There must be a fine line between enhancement and impairment, and I just don't care if someone else is all pristine doesn't even eat food that touched other food.

All the power to them.

 

it's just disgusting to find out he cheated his way out of tour de france! and all this years he keep on denying that he is using performance enhancing drugs. At one point in time i was too proud of him now it's gone shame on you lance

 

It's simple: create different classes. They can all compete together, but they get special medals, with big syringes accross the front.

Think of it like motorsports: a true stock car has lots of benefits, and you can still go autocross or drag it. But if you want to get hardcore, you have a turbo, and a hardcore clutch, and hardcore rock-solid suspension, and you replace rubber with aluminium bushings, and you put in a cage, and a parachute, and a wheelie bar...... you have dramatically increased the car's track performance, but you have shortened component life and made it practically unusable on the street. But we don't ban the aforementioned practices in motorsports, we just re-classify the cars/drivers. Steroids give you increased chances of cancer and all sorts of other things, create mood/temper problems, mental issues, heart issues, penis size issues, you name it.... but they let you be more competitive. Basically the same thing, more component wear and less day-to-day ability, but great competition. So put them in a special class, and test. But the hangup: anyone can admit to steroid use and be put in that class, but to lie about it should have you perminantly banned and shamed from competition.

Simple, right?

WRONG, what you do to your own body is a big criminal issue or something, in the US :2thumbsup:

 

let them fight our wars for us.. since they are super human after all. put them on the front lines instead of skinny babies out of high school.. and dont include me in your generalization. I dont give a fuck about sports. or the social fraternity brainwashing togetherism that comes with it.

 

Good. Then stay the fuck out of this thread because it obviously doesn't apply to you. I didn’t single out your name, and I shouldn't have to explain the concept of generalizations to you either.

 

I don't see that it doesn't apply to him.

Even if you don't directly care about the sports, this is still a huge (much bigger than it should be) social issue.

Let's start with livestrong and all the benefit that stuff had for cancer.

Sweet roided out pic in your sig, by the way. Explains your willingness to step up for people breaking the rules.

 

it is a social issue. people cant even put food on their tables. yet we're still giving douchebag cheaters free rides, tv shows, endorsements. hes not talking on oprha for free is he? hes got a lot of money to pay back and whom is giving it back to him. the oligarch system that was sucking his left nut in the first place.

it does concern me "fuck" because Ive had to really work for a living... it should anger any motherfuck3e4 thats had to put their lives in danger so you can all have gasoline and cheeters on TV./ give them millions of dollars to play child games and commercialize the world before you.. fuck!

he can join the vic roethlisberger forgiveness program and be right back on his faggot bike tomorrow.

 

I don't even care if he used steroids. I hate him for being a jock.

 

You’re the one who said you don’t give a fuck about sports. So that means what I said really doesn't concern you, dumbass. My original comment pertained to SPORTS and how doping is much more prevalent than many people think (or are lead to believe), and thus why (in my opinion) it makes sense for the world doping agencies to change their stance on the matter.

By no means was I trying to stick up for Lance Armstrong. I don’t like the fact that he lied about his doping or tried to destroy the lives of people that made allegations/accusations against him. No where in my post did I single out or sympathize with Lance. I even mentioned that I was talking about ALL SPORTS, not just cycling!!

So you best get your facts straight before you come on here and try to challenge me. I don't give a fuck who you served or fought for, or how hard you've had to work in life. You don't have the right to try and disrespect me or anyone else on this board.

Go back and re-read what I wrote before you start making ignorant posts like this trying to put words in my mouth. I spoke to the reality of professional athletics in the world today, and the position I felt the world doping agencies should take going forward, given the current state of things.

That doesn't mean I'm sticking up for people breaking the rules. If marijuana is illegal and people say the gov't should either change the law or stop enforcing it because of the current situation, it doesn't mean they're sticking up for those people breaking the law. What they're doing is still illegal. It means they're advocating for things to be changed, by going about it the right way.

 

You know, I don't think I'd want the medal if I was next in line, just because I would feel kind of cheated. The whole race was fucked, who knows what would have happened instead if he hadn't been doped up? You can't assume the next person in line would have won, because the whole situation would have been completely different. I'd just be pissed off and feel cheated. I feel worse for the honest people that competed in that race than I do for the saps who were hanging off Armstrong's nut for so long.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21115720

hehehe

 

I don't mind Lance Armstrong. I don't care that he cheated. It's a fucking bike race anyway, anyone who isn't competing and has a big issue with all of this seriously has rocks in their heads.

 

I've just head that Australian libraries in Sydney are moving all of his books to the fiction section.

 

I think it's interesting that "doping" in this instance means adding red blood cells and oxygen to his blood...which is NOT the traditional definition of "doping".

I am sure if you had pumped me FULL of extra blood cells, extra oxygen, plus added in some 'roids 20 years ago I still and yet wouldn't have been able to compete at that level. And I was darn fit! just sayin'