K hole - a universe within my mind

IM'ed around 80 mg of Ketamine, with a little burning at the time but it went away. Waited and within around 2 mins I got the familiar onset feeling. After about 10 minutes i realized this wasnt enough to send me into a whole, so I got out another 150 mg and snorted it all. WOW. Thats when things REALLY started to take off like they never have before.

With the concepts of my body and its surroundings so distant, thoughts really started to take over. This detatchment grew and grew to the point where having a body really wasn't even applicable in that state. The "hole" is hard to remember, and even harder to describe but the best way I can personally describe it is as if you were to swim inside your minds network of thoughts, which seemed like it was a whole universe. Music sounded extremely distant and cut off, however still made the experience better. I would say that the "hole" state only lasted around 20 or so minutes (seemed like forever though!), and once I was back in my body and in the room, I couldn't believe what happened. Even though I knew the k hole would be somewhat like this, I never expected it to be that awesome! The after effects (dizziness, nausea) lasted a few hours after, and even when I woke up this morning I still felt a bit dizzy. Definitely an extremely valuable state.

My nose doesn't hurt this much this morning, I'm thinking of doing a 200 mg dpt trip nasally but I dont know if that'd be a bad idea considering the K i snorted last night. I guess I'll see later tonight

 

is a non K hole dose valuable as well?
i've never done K and don't think i wanna jump right into a hole.

 

Its like being drunk within the first 80-100 Mg for me nasally, somewhat dissasociative but not very insightful. I have many friends who before I told them thought the K hole was something to avoid that NO one wanted to do.

 

i can only chuckle that you think ketamine is one of those things you don't jump into. leary was smoking crack if he placed ketamine beside LSD in his ranking of drugs.

below k-hole doses it's like an alcohol/cannabis hybrid. you won't learn anything other than "wow my mind sure is flexible!". ketamine is just about "getting high" imo. at k hole doses, there is just sufficient dissociation to have minimal signals from your body. that's it. it's neat. you seem to be just your awareness and your thoughts, removed from spatial constraints and dimensions. but you are still very much you, the world is still the world (albeit blurry), and so ultimately i leave unimpressed from the higher viewpoint of true psychedelics. it really is an anaesthetic high.

ketamine shines when combined with real mind-changers.

 

When combining it with a psychedelic, do you take a k-hole dose as well? That'd be quite a fucking ride

 

yeah man. k hole on a psychedelic is something else.

 

wow, that's an intense hole.

my holes are always so much more visual than most peoples' descriptions.

 

so in your guys' opinion how much should i snort if i have 150 mg? half or all?

 

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Yeah you definitely wanna snort it all at once, not too hard either you want to avoid it dripping down your throat and keep it high up in your nose to ensure maximum absorbtion. Nothing will be more frustrating than not reaching the K hole when you are trying to, that's what happened to me the first 2 times.

 

cut it into 3 lines, and take them over about 5 minutes.

try hard not to swallow your drip, and you should [assuming you don't weigh 200+ lbs] have a mild hole, or at least an intense experience.

 

why space it out? take the line at once.

 

I hadn't done K in 3 years until about 2 weeks ago. I sniffed a rail, put 6 hits of L ( swiss
) under my tounge. And about 15 minutes later hit another line. It was a blast, at one point I climbed on the bus and said to my friend, " the only thing that makes scence right now...is that...it might make scence to smoke PCP." To which my friend laughed histarically, because I've never smoked PCP.

 

what if i'm not necessarily trying to reach the K hole?
or is that the point - i should be?

is a sub-k hole experience crap compared to the hole?

 

Basically. As mr writer said nothing interesting will happen until you reach the hole or get very close. Considering how hard ketamine is to get, and if you only have 150 mg that would be a waste if you went for below a k hole dose.

 

you can do all the sub-k-hole doses you want when/if you get more ketamine, but if youre looking for a sample of the subjective effects of Ketamine, i suggest you do a proper k-hole dose, in one line.

 

i find that if i space my lines out a little i swallow less of the drip.

 

yep, it's really hard to get

 

Very hard unless someones nice enough to help you out