JWH-018 - The Truth [trip report]

Last night I received a sample of JWH-018 (1-Pentyl-3-(1-Naphthoyl)Indole), a new synthetic cannabinoid which is part of the JWH series. JWH stands for John W. Huffman (thanks orison), the guy who synthesized it.

Anyway. The stuff in the bag looked like little reddish-brown clumps (as people who have seen the stuff looks in pictures plastered all over online). As the clumps god smaller, the color got lighter, to light yellow for the smallest clumps. I had no idea how much was in here, but after smoking it I'm pretty sure it was around 10mg's.

So at first I loaded about half the amount onto a bowl with a piece of foil for the screen, little holes poked out around the top, so the burning hot liquid could not be sucked into the pipe. I placed the flame maybe 1 or 2 centimeters from the JWH and inhaled, keeping the flame on it. It soon turned into liquid, and then to vapor. I inhaled a few hits of varying sizes before I really got it down.

After about 5 or 6 hits (the last was pretty big), I put the pipe down. This stuff tastes a lot like DMT, but not as pleasant. Mmm hydrocarbons.... At this point there was no JWH left on the foil. I felt a little buzz, but nothing significant. I gave it a little more time (5 minutes) and it built to being just high. Like if this was all I had I'd be alright with it, but it's not the sort of high (yet) that makes you want to stop.

It was a lot like smoking regs. Or crappy mids. I loaded the rest of what I had onto the pipe, and began hitting it the same way as before. I can finally vaporize shit correctly! After another 6 or so hits (of varying sizes again), I was getting pretty baked. I say baked to mean the equivalent to a couple gravity bong rips of decent mids. Or a bowl/bowl and a half of some mids. I was shocked by how *exactly* this felt like weed. Had I not known what I was smoking I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference.

There was still some lines of red left in the ripples of the foil but I started to feel that anxiety people seem to talk about with the JWH series. I immediately stopped hitting it. I don't want an anxiety attack. I put it away and assessed the high. I'd say all in all it was pretty much like 2 bowls of mids. Not fantastic mids, or shitty mids, just mids. Maybe with hints of dankness.

The taste was very interesting and I actually liked it. i read that hydrocarbons produce that characteristic taste. Anyone who's smoked pure DMT should have an idea of what JWH tastes like.

It doesn't end there.

Of course being the psychonaut I am, I decided to smoke some weed directly after this. Seeing as how my cannabinoid receptors were already saturated by the JWH, smoking a little weed should make me really high, right? Not really. I loaded a bowl on the gravity bong (a ratchet piece, very small) and ripped away on that. It was done, and I didn't feel any higher. Usually that method takes a couple minutes to kick in so I went back inside and continued to talk to people on AIM and whatnot.

That bowl hit me and I felt nicely baked now. I decided to smoke another (I was a little worried about the anxiety problem, but it never arose). After this second gravity bowl I just felt like I was so stoned I couldn't get any higher, so I gave up. I have been higher than I was at that moment, but I was definitely pretty damn high. I'm sure I looked baked as hell to any observer.

I ate and ate and ate and ate until I finally decided I needed to go to sleep for work today. The JWH on it's own doesn't seem to stimulate appetite the way weed does for me. Weed makes me eat endlessly, and I didn't feel that need when I was only high from the JWH.

So there you have it. A JWH-018 report.

 

Awesome. Thanks.

It sounds like it took a little while for the vaporized jwh-018 to take effect after you inhaled. Would you say it kicks in faster than when you smoke marijuana? I was under the impression that it was suppose to be quick... almost instantaneous

BTW, did you see that german report about spice gold? Guess somebody finally determined that there was JWH-018 in there. Here's a thread from the cannibus forum for anyone interested, it also has a link to the translated story:

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=340378

 

Yeah I posted in another forum about that.... about it.

Ehh I I do not think so.

And Yeah....I'd say marijuana is slightly faster. Maybe they're about the same?

 

John W. Huffman

 

Spice? Really?!

A to remain unnamed head in the Southern US had that stuff as recently as 2 months ago. I don't smoke (ultra-mega sensitivity to THC in any amount), but someone who isn't me tried it and asked, "how in the fuck are they selling diesel and getting away with it?!"

I can only assume a response to potency and reference to what I've heard called NYC Diesel or 'Krippy'. Again - quite the novice it this arena. I tend to lose my proverbial shit. In my mind, I might as well hit salvia.

 

I've smoked and eaten that lumpy JWH-018 several times now. It's pretty hard to define how it's different than weed - it's so close. I think the ritual of smoking or vaping a bowl is the only element that is really missing - it's kinda weird when you realize it, but then you get over it because you're pretty high.

One interesting note - I noticed that, just like weed, I get damn horny on JWH-018. And my girlfriend, who gets lethargic and sleeps on weed, does just that on JWH-018 too. Not the best combination ...

BTW, I found there is a trick to eating JWH-018. If you swallow a granule of it, it may take hours before it kicks in, but if you stir it in a small shot of whiskey or vodka and consume that, you can feel the effects in under an hour. The stuff actually does not taste bad at all, so I can imagine cooking with it could get very interesting. Will be trying that soon...

 

Let us know how that goes. Do you have any idea how much you're eating? And ho long does the high last that way. Is it different like THC is when eaten as opposed to smoked?

 

I used to cook food with oil which had been pre-cooked with some weed, and the buzz would last sometimes until halfway through the next day. Definitely lasts much longer than smoking and longer than I normally want to experience.

But with JWH-018 I eat 5~8 mg and get a good but lighter buzz, and it lasts only a few hours, about the same amount of time as smoking it. Took me a few tries before I realized you can't just swallow a granule of it unless you want to wait several hours for it to kick in - it's quite soluble in a little alcohol, even water, and comes on much faster that way.

I'm slowly working my way up to larger amounts. I could see this could be easier to cook with because with weed I never really had a good grasp of the strength of my batch, where with JWH-018 it's quite accurately measurable. It's also probably totally undetectable because it has a very mild taste and odor. I may do some cooking this weekend...

 

sounds like a very interesting compound.

what is the average "price per high"? ie: if i paid 5$ for .5 of decent weed and smoked it all, how much would it cost to reach a similar level using JWH-018?

 

Prices for it vary. The more suppliers you know, the more it varies. However, one well known, new source for this stuff sells it for $70 for 100mg, price goes down for more. 8-10mg will get you nicely baked. But it's also possible to overdose and have intense anxiety attacks. I've read a few reports of this happening and those people seem to explain them as quite bad.

I would stay away from it anyway. Naphthalene is very toxic and very carcinogenic. It's well known that it's a possible metabolite.


You can totally see it in the structure of JWH-018 (in my sig)

 

so in otherwords, its a bit more expensive per dose, but may be ideal to those who are plauged by drugtesting?

 

Well I doubt it'll show up in a drug test but I wouldn't risk my health on it.

 

I liked JWH-018 for its stimmulant effects. For me it felt sort of like a a weed high but without the tiredness/ heavy body stone which sometimes comes with smoking cannabis, in fact it kept me up all night after I took it.

Im sure it could take you further than just a 'high' tho. In higher doses ive been told it can lead to dissasociation and mild hallucinations.

It is more expensive than weed and and more difficult to smoke. I used a glass pipe.
But a good method I found is to grind up some cannabis in a grinder and mix in some JWH-018 and then just smoke it as you would smoke cannabis normaly ie bong etc.

 

I am right there with you. I have a good friend that swears by this stuff only because he works for a tyrant company that does random testing every week.

 

Yeah. He should be smoking CP55940. It's much less toxic, and is actually very structurally related to THC itself, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't produce the metabolites that THC does. And it lasts 8 hours I'm told.

 

That's a good thing??

 

What if you can mix this with homegrown leaf, to up the buzz??

 

What's not to like about being high for 8 hours?




And Orison, yes. If the cannabinoid receptors are already being saturated by something then of course smoking weed will take a lot less to get the same high. But you're still using the other substance.

I've yet to mix weed with CP though.

 

Hahahahah, What's not to like about being high for 8 hours? Haha.

I agree.. completely, I mean come on now. High for life! Why be sober?

 

Someone scored some yucatan fire (like spice) and anybody who tried it was unable to distinguish it from the real thing, other than the taste that is, no problems with anxiety either, and a lot of it was smoked