Just a thought...

so do you ever wonder if in a parallel universe there might be songs or poetry that have the same tune and same general values as the songs and poetry in our universe, but just different words and arrangement?

i was watching alice in wonderland and the caterpillar saying the poem alice knew but with different words made me think of that. i mean everything is fractals of a greater truth.

 

Yea, but in the parallel universe the art exists just as the pure energy of feeling.

Artists reach into this other dimension to create art

 

i have thought about this before. Imo, if there were other beings out there, they most likley would not know what music is unless they had a soul like humans do.

 

well of course there is, but i don't know about artists getting their information from there.

there's an infinant number of parallel universes, which means there are also an infinant number with similar art to ours.

 

I dont think there are any 'parallel' universes. even if there are other possible universes, I think all the possibilities are very far different from eachother, and dont just differ from ours in little respects.

I reason this because of the interconectedness of everything - every change in one part of the system will have changes on every other part of the system. So I dont think it is right to think about possible universes as if they were 'like ours, with a difference'. the 'like ours' bit would have to be morphed because the 'difference' part must perfectly align with it.

but of course its possible

if there are parallel universes, that is.

 

I'm not sure about parallel universes because my mind simply does not know if they exist or not. I would say that I lean more towards StonerBill's idea of just a difference rather than a closely related universe but different. My thought on this is do they have to be other universes?
what about this universe we are a part of?

This universe is extremely vast and is home to an infinite number of forms (galaxies,planets,stars etc). My mind considers it quite possible that there is a vast number of other realities within this universe. A vast number of other organisms which could essentially be anything, even our minds probably couldn't conceive the ideas that make up those realities because it must be so much different than our reality. This leads into a thought that my mind ponders, just in hypothesis could it be possible that if they're is other organism concepts such as our selves that these organisms would percieve with different sensory inputs (as opposed to our 5 senses), and in that case is it possible that these organisms are just "impercievable" from our point of view.

 

im sure there are things that are closely related to us and things that are far different from ours spread through out the universe. considering the universe exploded from one tiny spec into all we see now, the same fundamental material is spread throughout the universe. so there are probably creatures that are similar to us, and there are creatures probably different, and some of what they do will be familiar to us and some of it will be completely bizarre. it makes sense if you think about, its almost like star wars.

now as for parrelel universes, modern quantum physics promotes the idea of parrelel universes, so that is a possibility. logically some parralel universes would be subsets of ours, using the same rules as our universe does, and some would be created from a completly different set of intial conditions and nothing like our ruleset.

now all of these parrelel universes would have had to come from a even more fundamental source, whatever that source is spreads through all universes, this source has a basic purpose, which is the second law of thermaldynamics, to evovle towards a lower entropy system until synergy is reached, this basic fundamental law is what connects all of us, this is every existing thing's fundamental purpose. scientifically speaking. what does that mean in lamens terms though, we just need to learn how to love, but not only learn how to love, we need to become love. damn thats a mouth foul.

 

But this is no more than theory, correct?

Don't take it the wrong way because it really makes no difference to me whether we have parallel universes or not, actually it would mean a lot to my mind if there is parallel universes.

But I must ask, is there really any way that one can prove another parallel universe? The only way to truly even be convinced of it is by experience of a parallel universe. Not by thinking of what a parallel universe would or could be like because that is just in the thought plane of the person who is thinking about it. So has anyone truly experienced a parallel universe? and if so what criteria could we possibly create* that could justify or prove this?

Oh and the Big Bang Theory is not proven it is only a theory. And just on this thought even if the theory was true that would only mean that matter expanded at that time, it makes no reference to the consciousness that is all pervading through it.

All of this just thoughts, here now and gone tomorrow, created and destroyed over time, impermanent to say the least.

 

me thinks that you just forget how deep the rabbit hole goes.

 

i think there are different facets within every reality that are interconnected where an action in one plane of existence might have an opposing reaction in another plane of existence. for example say that reality consisted of any number of quasi-independant and supersymmetrical reality bubbles.

but at the same time there are also an infinant number of branches within each reality with different actions that did take place, and different histories. so say that for our history there is really only one way that things could work out, but there are also an infinant number of varying histories that stem off it; and they all exist simultaneosly.

and then there are completely seperate alternate realities that have different laws which govern them, and different systems of operation.

there's similar 'universes' or whatever you want to call them, but there are also vastly different ones.

reality is like an imprint formed upon some kind of fundamental energy system, with varying methods used to make the imprint. for example a camera will form an imprint of a picture onto the film, and if it were to use a red light to encode the picture then if a green light were to be used to try to decode the imagine, nothing would happen. a red light is required to recover the image. so in this way we are really only experiencing reality through our human-escque color decodifiers, but there are an infinant number of other colors that we cannot interpret.

if your really that interested in all this then i'd recomend smoking some salvia. that always seemed to put me in multiple realities and capable of comprehending like 7 or 8 dimensions.

 

yea i want to say i have experienced other dimensions. high doses of lsd, salvia, and defiantly dmt. dmt i went to a dimension in between the corners of this one. salvia i have experienced parralel universes and subsets of this one. there were layers of reality.

if you match up quantum science, dmt trips, out of body experiences, and mystic teachings they all lead to the same thing. if you really observe the world, i mean really really look deep into it, how can you question that there is intelligence behind it all?

 

have you ever just sat and watched someone draw, play improv on an instrument softly, or just do any sort of focused creative activity?

you can literally feel the energy they are drawing off of. it feels very calm and peaceful.

 

because you can question yourself.

 

hell yes!

the energy can vary though, as much as the art. Not all is healing!

Soft placid, cerulean blue. I feed off that energy

 

Probably because it makes you feel more special than saying "My brain experienced a chemical interaction with drug X last night and I felt some amazing pharmacological effects". Personally, that is wonderful enough for me, but I believe that most people in the drug community of sufficiently "supernatural" leanings are so because it simply makes them feel better as people to think they are part of some amazing voyage through the dimensions and in touch with greater beings, when in reality they were at home, on their couch, writhing in pleasure with a big grin on their face

Even consider that? Maybe you're just interpreting things through the lense that makes you feel the biggest and most important?

 

ahhh yes, someone else knows what I'm talking about!!

and here I thought it was just me being crazy

 

but i mean when you hit dmt, you just dont feel like your in another dimension, your just fucking in another dimension, its like when your there you cant question it at all. when beings tell you things, that you have never known before, and you would have no way of knowing, it is really hard to question.

 

And yet you realize that you're lying in bed and you just took a hit of a powerful mind altering drug which you know from scientific literature produces exactly these kinds of visions via well-postulated mechanisms of electro-chemical activity.

I don't see why you need to say "lewl guys last night I went to alpha centauri it was nuts i saw REAL ALIENS", while omitting the fact that when you closed your eyes, you were in bed, and when you opened them, you were still in bed, and you were really really really high.

Like . . . grasping at straws?

 

How do you explain telephaty? How do you explain realizing some things and finding that science is on the way to prove what you found out on "one of the lying in the bed" situations? How do you prove that you are feeling love? How do you explain near death expiriences? Why all people all around the world expiriencing similar realisations after "lying in bed" situations? And so on, and so on?
If you are so bound to science and solid prove, without having some faith in your feelings and realisations, why are you bothering taking drugs on the first place? What is your motive?
I don't want to look like I am saying you are doing something wrong, but I am really curious why you even bother taking drugs if you think that it is just a chemical reaction in our brains and all what you expirience is product of your imagination and is false?
I can only tell you that I am too stupit to make up all those things I expirienced on my journeys, I don't even call them trips. I expirienced different dimensions and different entities, and most of what I found out on those journeys, had huge impact on my day to day life, gave me the reason to live, love and be better person every single day. If all of that was a lie, or chemical reaction like you called it, why do I feel all those things even when I am sober? I would say because the doors of perception are widely open and beeing aware that there is something much bigger than me, even if it is all product of my imagination(although I told you I am too stupit to invent all of those on my own) allowed me to live life from my dreams, to be happy, loving and most of all gratefull for every breath of air that I take. And all of that just because of "chemical reaction"? I highly doubt it!

Peace and love, and may all your wishes become true!

 

Mr. Writer, if I recall correctly your an atheist correct?

There was a post some time ago when you were telling me the same thing about the "chemical reaction" idea and basically that all of the experience was only fun and had no spiritual connotations. I remember it being something like "well if you find your spirituality through drugs...". Yes I have experienced some spirituality while on acid, but I've experienced it the same way everyday while sober. acid is a tool, it can help gain awareness of God* but God* is above acid. I assume you have not felt the love of God* because you deny(?) his existence. When experiencing God* it is no doubt that there is something bigger than us. But as I stated at the end of our last conversation, "you can't win with an atheist" because you believe your mind is the truth, but I believe God* is above your mind.

With my perception of reality(5 senses) I can honestly say that water exists. I can see it, touch it, taste it..., In the vastness of our universe is it really logical to say that only these 5 senses exist? \through my experiences in life with and without acid I have experienced the 6th sense of God* realization but because you have not experienced God* you deny Gods* existence. But one thing about God* is, you can deny Gods* presence but you can never disprove God* just as I cannot prove God* to you. God* can only be experienced but by denying Gods* existence he will always be out of reach for he who denies and trusts the worldly things instead of him, God*.

*- Please replace God with whatever suits your fancy, all are just names and can't do God justice anyways