John Lennon Heroin Smoker.

Discussion in 'Musicians' started by Ged, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. Ged

    Ged Not bothered HipForums Supporter

    Did any if you know that for a period John Lennon smoked heroin? I found out in a biography of him I read. It gives songs like 'Cold Turkey' a striking poignancy. Does this surprise you and how does it change your opinion of John? Some say it was heroin arriving on the scene that soured the hippy movement. Many of you may think John was an asshole but he is my favourite Beatle. It is popular opinion that Yoko split the Beatles but I think that was inevitable anyway. I much prefer his solo stuff after meeting Yoko. I was lucky to see her play at the Royal Festival Hall with her son by John, Sean. She gave everyone an 'Ono Chord' which I still have. It's a little torch that we all shone during the performance.

    But heroin. What's your opinion?
     
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  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Heroin is an awful drug. Heroin these days is much worse because a lot of it is laced with deadly fentanyl. People are dying in huge numbers everyday. In my opinion, anyone who buys heroin off the streets pretty much has a death wish.

    And yeah, I knew Lennon was into heroin. I didn't know he smoked it, though. I assumed he shot it or snorted it. I actually didn't even know heroin could be smoked.
     
  3. Ged

    Ged Not bothered HipForums Supporter

    It is smoked on foil through a rolled foil tube.

    I agree that impure heroin is a serious problem, and injecting is very scuzzy. But smoking pure heroin is no more dangerous than drinking in my opinion. I've smoked on and off for years but never been around needles. It is VERY nice.
     
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  4. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam Senior Member

    I had heard Lennon got into Heroin, I never cared to look into what extent he used it. From a musical standpoint, it sounds like he was using Heroin circa The White Album. Granted I've never used the drug, but songs like "I'm so Tired" and "Happiness is a Warm Gun" have a sludgy, dark edge to them, which is a stark contrast to their prior couple psychedelic records.
     
  5. Orison

    Orison my dog is full of stars Staff Member Super Moderator

    smoked heroin smells funny.. like not something I want to inhale funny
     
  6. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    Doesnt change my opinion about him at all. I still think he was a pretentious d bag

    (I love the Beatles but John just comes across as so pretentious and just ugh. George is the best Beatle)
     
  7. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam Senior Member

    My opinion of Heroin essentially echoes Pressed Rat. Although it is something that has piqued my interest in the past, with how prevalent it is cut with the exponentially more potent fentanyl among other stuff, I have no desire to try it. Plus from what I've read of the Heroin experience, I think Ketamine essentially approximates that for me, but instead of leaving reality with a clear mind, I leave reality with an overactive mind.
     
  8. Two people that I know died from heroin overdoses. Also, I didn't know that. Yes, it does change my opinion of him, but not his music.
     
  9. Ged

    Ged Not bothered HipForums Supporter

    More people die in car crashes. But that's an acceptable loss...Sorry about your friends. But why stigmatise something that just helps to ease the pain. Alcohol and tobacco is much worse. It's all a matter of perception. I know of other stars who have smoked heroin but they are still alive so I won't mention them. There is a terrible taboo against anyone enjoying themselves in this society. Sherlock Holmes smoked opium but no one judges him because he is upper class. Screw the establishment. It's all so petty and school marmish.
     
  10. ZenKarma

    ZenKarma Shuffling Realities Staff Member Super Moderator

    A lot of major musicians of that time, and up to now, have fallen into that same trap of despair and heavy drug use. We all knew about Lennon back then, this thread comes as no surprise.
     
  11. BeatinFeet69

    BeatinFeet69 Workin' on bein' an ol' asshole

    I found out Lennon did heroin back in high school when I did a book report on him. Never been one to judge a person on their personal proclivities so no it never changed my opinion of him
     
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  12. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    Happiness is a warm gun
     
  13. Ged

    Ged Not bothered HipForums Supporter

    No. I think you'll find it's a warm bum.
     
  14. RainyDayHype

    RainyDayHype flower power Lifetime Supporter

    Did not know this. I still like him the same. Ringo is my fav though.
     
  15. RainyDayHype

    RainyDayHype flower power Lifetime Supporter

    You reminded me of Central Park..ya know his ashes are scattered there? It made me incredibly sad to see the Dakota. I just stood and sank there for a while.
     
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  16. Ged

    Ged Not bothered HipForums Supporter

    Ringo was very cute.
     
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  17. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    It just adds another dimension to what we know of him. I'm not surprised at all.
     

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